My response to Kim Iversen commentary on the wars in Israel.
Started: 4 19 24
Finished: 4 27 24
When I first heard of this individual mentioned on lifesite news I was like, who?
After all. I am guilty of reading conservative articles or watching various Conservative podcasts on youtube or rumble that are more aligned with my political and religious beliefs. And typically I don’t pay attention to the progressives or leftists or middle of the road talking heads.
Of the many talking heads in the media who supports the idea that Israelis are using genocide to punish the palestinians as a people for hamas crimes and therefore willingly or ignorantly helping create American anti-Semitism. Nothing should be surprising.
Her commentary.
“Kim Iversen America has lost its independence and sovereignty to Israel”
“In the midst of Israel committing ‘an obvious and actual genocide’ in Gaza, the popular commentator argued ‘the sovereignty of the United States is (now) lost’ due to actions of de facto agents of this foreign nation. ‘And it has to be stopped.’”
“Patrick Delaney”
“Thu Apr 18, 2024 – 10:00 am EDT”
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“Our Country Has Lost It’s Independence”
“Streamed on: Mar 25, 8:01 pm EDT”
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However just for the sake of argument.
What is anti-Semitism?
“hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-Semitism
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“”Anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.” –Working Definition of Anti-Semitism by the European Monitoring Center on Racism and Xenophobia”
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Next the criticism of those who have been fired or let go in the media for having negative view points of Israel’s government.
It is understandable that Westerners are concerned about the horrific conditions of what goes on in palestine. After all no one really wants more warfare and death in this world and everyone has concerns of world war 3 to be brought out.
However why is it that there isn’t equal criticism of hamas and other islamic terrorists movements nor is their criticism of the pro palestinian movements in the USA & elsewhere? After all Israel isn’t the entire reason for the conflict. In other words no one looks at the ‘why’s’ these attacks and horrors happen.
After all if people in the media only blame Israel aren’t they anti-Semitic?
I took some time to read up online about this subject and all the critics of Israel are either left leaner’s or moslems and why is that?
Because they share a similar trait. They do have hate for Israel & Jews and they think that the world would be better off with the mall dead.
For those who are socialist / communist or some other form of leftist I noticed the following.
They hate religion
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They don’t know anything about palestinians and the troubles they cause.
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They don’t criticize islam.
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They don’t know islams history.
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They don’t know Israel’s history.
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They don’t know Zionism’s history or the why Jews want to go back to their home land. (After all Judaism didn’t start in Europe)
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They only want to criticize Zionism but not islam.
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They don’t understand the reasons why Israel does so many things that seem to us barbaric against islams palestinians in which their culture and religion are based on revenge. Similar to their arab neighbors.
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As Americans we don’t have a modern understanding of a local enemy that fights us tooth and nail. The closest subject I can even come close to, is the many Indian battles that the US Government had to do towards those Indian tribes who wholesale murdered civilians with primitive weapons and later the guns and ammo they stole off of those who they murdered.
But my basic attempt at comparing American history to what Israel goes through is vastly flawed. With all our flaws we did reign in the many Indian tribes who indeed lived on this continent for thousands of years before any of the religions I write about. And yes all sides of those old conflicts were wrong with the bloodshed both groups did.
But in saying that. I must be specific, palestinians are not the ‘indians’ of the land of Israel. Instead they are ancestors of previous conquers and I can prove that here.
“1948, Israel, and the Palestinians The True Story”
“Efraim Karsh May 2008”
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“The Origins of the Palestinian Arabs”
“by Daniel Pipes”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-origins-of-the-palestinian-arabs
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“Origins of the Name “Palestine” and Palestinian Nationalism”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/origin-of-quot-palestine-quot
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“Pre-State Israel: Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel”
“by Mitchell Bard”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-claim-to-the-land-of-israel
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“Modern Jewish History: Traditional Narratives of Israeli and Palestinian History”
“by Paul Scham”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/traditional-narratives-of-israeli-and-palestinian-history
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In regards to censorship and losing employment over Israeli government criticism:
However to be fair does every person deserve to be fired or removed from having specific criticisms of Israel? No. Some criticisms are legitimate. And yet where is those criticisms’ of Israel’s enemies?
I understand a few things in brief about why people get fired. And I understand the ‘why’ there’s concern.
For the most part conservative media is based off of the ideas that Christianity brings to the media including the idea of a Christian Zionism where we will share in Israel from what our Bibles tell us. Rev 21:1-27, 22:1-21.
I suppose that there may be some truth to why there is worries for speaking out against Israel’s government. But again, whom do those who got fired serve? If hamas and islams proxies… then maybe its deserved.
If authors are honest about criticisms then perhaps they and their employers should have a deep discussion on what it true and what is opinion. And of course there needs to be investigations’ on what if any influence Israel has in any of our media and also I must demand that all other political / religious organizations have to looked into as well.
Next let’s deal with the idea that Israel is committing genocide against the palestinians.
“Israel Accused of “Genocide” at the International Court of Justice”
“(January 2024)”
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While briefly looking online nothing posted is helpful for the Israeli cause. Again I’m not surprised. And so to build Israelis’ defense I am using the following.
“Israel Is Nothing Like the Afrikaner Government in South Africa”
“by Mitchell G. Bard”
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While I understand that criticism of the Israeli government and their military choices why are so called anti-Israeli or anti-Zionists not also being critical of the reason for the palestinians to be blasted?
Lets review hamas charter from 2017.
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Are the palestinians who voted in hamas and send their sons to be blown apart not liable for the horrors of war that are happening now?
And if not why are those who are anti Israel or anti Zionist not saying anything about what palestinians media say?
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In brief the American media and its leftist allies wont or cant criticize palestinians or their islamic masters. It is far easier to accept islams lies and to criticize Jews, Israel and Zionism.
Don’t believe me? Look up “Criticism of palestinians” in your search engine and see what happens.
Since the media wont give criticism. I will.
See here:
“No one wants pro palestinian protests or protestors”
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“Would Jesus support the palestinians?”
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Why don’t moslem countries take in palestinians?
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“How to solve the palestinian conflict”
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“Pro Palestinian American leftists, are islams useful idiots.”
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“To support palestinians is to support terrorism and criminality”
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“Palestinians are a moslem problem”
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“palestinian fatwas on Jerusalem…”
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“Free Palestine?”
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IF Americas media only criticizes Israel & Its government but wont be equally critical of the palestinian government of hamas and related islamic theocratic governments than perhaps it isn’t Israel, Zionists or Jews who are in control but the very real enemy of Islam and its pro palestinian proxies embedded in our universities and the leftist schools of idiocy.
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