What are the differences between the god of the LDS (Mormons) Elohim, And islams allah?

What are the differences between the god of the LDS (Mormons) Elohim, And islams allah?

Nov 2011.

I have decided to re-write my previous post about the differences between the gods of mormonism and the god of islam. This is also my attempt at answering the author of this website.

http://www.mormonmuslim.com/

(Her FAQ:)

http://www.mormonmuslim.com/mormonfaq.htm

When we research the differences between the gods of islam and mormons we find some major differences that can only cause problems for both groups in the future.

Lets start with islam. This is their concept of god (Ilah).

“If the Creator is Eternal and Everlasting, then His attributes must also be eternal and everlasting. He should not lose any of His attributes nor acquire new ones. If this is so, then His attributes are absolute. Can there be more than one Creator with such absolute attributes? Can there be for example, two absolutely powerful Creators? A moment’s thought shows that this is not feasible. “

“The Quran summarizes this argument in the following verses: “

“God has not taken to Himself any son, nor is there any god with Him: For then each god would have taken of that which he created and some of them would have risen up over others.” (23:91) “

“And Why, were there gods in earth and heaven other than God, they (heaven and earth) would surely go to ruin.” (21:22)”

http://www.allah.org/

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“Who is Allah?”

”Listen, O those who can, to what God desires from you. And what He desires is only that you become solely His and do not associate any partners with Him, neither in the heavens nor on the earth. Our God is that God who is alive even now as He was alive before. He speaks even now as He used to speak before. And even now He hears as He used to hear earlier. It is a false notion that in these times He does hear but does not speak. But He hears and speaks, too. All His Attributes are eternal and everlasting. None of His Attributes is in abeyance, nor will it ever be. He is the One without any associate Who has no son, nor has He any wife. He alone is the peerless Who has no one like Him. And He is the One Who is unique in that none of His Attributes are exclusively possessed by anyone besides Him. He is the One Who has no equal. He is the One Who has no one to share with Him His Attributes. And He is the One no Power of Whose is less than perfect. He is near, though He is far and He is far, though He is near.”

“He can reveal Himself to Ahl-e-Kashf in personification, but He has no body, nor any shape. He is above all, but it cannot be said that there is anything beneath Him. He is on ‘Arsh, but it can’t be said that He is not on the earth. He is the sum total of all Perfect Attributes and He is the Manifestation of every True Praise. He is the source of all that is Good and encompasses all Powers and He is the source of all Beneficences. He is the One to Whom everything returns. He is the Lord of all realms. He possesses every Perfection and is free from all defects, imperfections and weakness. It is His sole prerogative that all those who belong to the earth as well as all those who belong to the heavens should worship Him.”

http://alislam.org/allah/Who-is-Allah.html

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Now lets look at Mormon (LDS) Claims of God:

“God is our Heavenly Father and we are His children.”

“God is your Father in Heaven (Matthew 6:9).  We call God Heavenly Father because He is the Father of our spirits and we are created in His image ( Genesis 1:27). “

“God has a body that looks like yours, though His body is immortal, perfected, and has a glory beyond description.  He knows you personally and loves you more than you can comprehend.  To help you find happiness in this life and guide you to return to live with Him, Heavenly Father provided a plan called the gospel? of Jesus Christ, a guide based on the life and teachings of His Son, Jesus Christ.”

http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/god-is-your-loving-heavenly-father

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“God the Father”

“God the Father is the Supreme Being in whom we believe and whom we worship. He is the ultimate Creator, Ruler, and Preserver of all things. He is perfect, has all power, and knows all things. He “has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s” (D&C 130:22).”

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?index=7&locale=0&sourceId=fb7d2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

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“The Father of Our Spirits “

“One of life’s great questions is “Who am I?” A beloved Primary song helps even little children answer this question. We sing, “I am a child of God, and he has sent me here.” The knowledge that we are children of God provides strength, comfort, and hope. “

 

“We are all literally children of God, spiritually begotten in the premortal life. As His children, we can be assured that we have divine, eternal potential and that He will help us in our sincere efforts to reach that potential. “

 

“The Supreme Creator “

 

“Heavenly Father is the Supreme Creator. Through Jesus Christ, He created heaven and earth and all things in them (see Moses 2:1). Alma said, “All things denote there is a God; yea, even the earth, and all things that are upon the face of it, yea, and its motion, yea, and also all the planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a Supreme Creator” (Alma 30:44). “

 

“The Author of the Plan of Salvation “

 

“Our Father in Heaven wants us to dwell with Him eternally. His work and glory is “to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man” (Moses 1:39). In order to make this possible, He prepared the plan of salvation. He sent His Beloved Son, Jesus Christ, to loose the bands of death and atone for the sins of the world: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). This sacrifice is the greatest expression of our Father’s love for us. “

 

“Coming to Know God the Father “

 

“As children of God, we have a special relationship with Him, setting us apart from all His other creations. We should seek to know our Father in Heaven. He loves us, and He has given us the precious opportunity to draw near to Him as we pray. Our prayers, offered in humility and sincerity, are heard and answered. “

 

“We can also come to know our Father by learning about His Beloved Son and applying the gospel in our lives. The Savior taught His disciples: “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. . . . He that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:7, 9). “

 

“We draw near to God the Father as we study the scriptures and the words of latter-day prophets and as we give service. When we follow God’s will and live as He would have us live, we become more like Him and His Son. We prepare ourselves to return to live in Their presence. “

“See also Creation; Godhead; Plan of Salvation “

“—See True to the Faith (2004), 74–76”

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?index=7&locale=0&sourceId=fb7d2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

“John 14:6, 21–24; 17:3; Mosiah 4:9; D&C 132:22–24; Articles of Faith 1:1”

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More on the LDS God:

“Godhead”

 

“The Church’s first article of faith states, “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.” These three beings make up the Godhead. They preside over this world and all other creations of our Father in Heaven.”

http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?index=7&locale=0&sourceId=29ec2f2324d98010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=bbd508f54922d010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

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“The true doctrine of the Godhead was lost in the apostasy that followed the Savior’s mortal ministry and the deaths of His Apostles. This doctrine began to be restored when 14-year-old Joseph Smith received his First Vision (see Joseph Smith—History 1:17). From the Prophet’s account of the First Vision and from his other teachings, we know that the members of the Godhead are three separate beings. The Father and the Son have tangible bodies of flesh and bones, and the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit (see D&C 130:22). “

“Although the members of the Godhead are distinct beings with distinct roles, they are one in purpose and doctrine. They are perfectly united in bringing to pass Heavenly Father’s divine plan of salvation. “

“See also God the Father; Holy Ghost; Jesus Christ “

“—See True to the Faith (2004), 73–74”

“Matthew 3:13–17; John 14:6–10; 17:6–23; Acts 7:55–56; 2 Nephi 31:18; Mormon 7:5–7; D&C 76:20–24”

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As demonstrated from the website evidence and quoted paragraphs. The differences between both deities’ is obvious. Islams Allah is not the mormon god. The LDS idea of God is not allah.

Allah according to islam has no goddess or son. Allah has no body. Where we see thru LDS resources that their claim to God is stated in the following.

God was once human.

God has a body.

God has a wife and is able to have sex in order to create ‘spirit babies’.

As I have attempted to show by the claims of both muslims and mormons. Thier concept about God is counter to each other. Thier ideas, doctrines and theology can only create more problems and create alot of potentially dangerous debates when both communities decide to met in public or private.

Both communities should do more to simply accept the fact that thier concepts about  a god are not the same and all present or future dialog with ‘interfaith’ should be stopped in order to protect both communities.

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