My response to the author of the (SDA) TEN FACTS ABOUT THE BIBLE SABBATH

Quite a while ago I found this SDA article about a series of so called ‘facts’ written by a SDA author.

The following are my responses from the Holy Bible to his ‘facts’. The SDA authors ‘facts’ will be in BOLD with my responses under them.

TEN FACTS ABOUT THE BIBLE SABBATH

http://www.seventh-day.org/tenfacts.htm

“FACT NUMBER ONE—The Sabbath was given to all mankind at the Creation of this world.”

He bases this assumption on two scriptures.

Genesis 2:1-3

Mark 2:27

In his opinion:

“God dedicated and set aside the Sabbath as a rest day—2,000 years before the first Jew. Abraham is considered by all to have been the first Jew. He lived about 2000 B.C. Biblical records indicate that the Creation of this world took place about 4000 B.C. So the Bible Sabbath is not Jewish! It is for mankind; it is for all the world.”

There are obvious problems with this theory.

Problem # 1:

Only Christian Sabbath keepers and the Jewish people keep the Sabbath. However ONLY the Jews or Israelis ARE COMMANDED by God to rest on Saturday Sabbath. The whole of humanity with all its religions were not called to keep the Saturday Sabbath. Both the Tanakh and the Christian Bible donot include any verses for both groups to keep Sabbath.

Problem #2:

Genesis 2:1-3 Indicates GOD RESTED but not his creation. This means God took a break from his creative process. He gave no commandment for his creation to rest on Saturday.

Problem #3:

In misusing Mark 2:27 he simply skips over a great deal of information.

Jesus did not order the gentiles following him to keep Sabbath. As I have studied Matthew, Mark, Luke and John Jesus simply asked his followers to follow him. But gave no specific commandment on which worship day we as modern Christians were to follow.

“FACT NUMBER TWO—The Sabbath is a memorial of Creation and our salvation.”

In the beliefs of the SDA Saturday Sabbath is a memorial of creation and their salvation. In the rest of Christianity our Salvation is in Jesus .This author uses the usual Old Testament excuses to keep the Ten and Sabbath.

Exodus 31:17

Exodus 31:13

Ezekiel 20:12.

Ezekiel 20:20.

Either on purpose on mistake this author ASSUMES he is part of Israel. The people of Moses… thereby making himself and other SDA followers Jewish. This of course means that EG White was not a Christian nor a follower of Christ but a Jewish false prophet.

As for their idea that following EG Whites writings about Sabbath being their salvation. WHERE is it in the NEW Testament that keeping Sabbath as a act of salvation?

This author is making a FATAL spiritual mistake about assuming keeping the Sabbath as a work will save him from hell. Only Jesus saves us through his blood not keeping a worship day.

“FACT NUMBER THREE—The people of God kept the Bible Sabbath before the Ten Commandments were given at Mount Sinai.”

I noticed this under his fact #3…

“The Sabbath Truth was first given to our race in Eden before the fall of man. It was given before sin existed, and apart from it. It was given to every man to link him to his God. And if Adam needed the Sabbath, we need it all the more today.”

 

“God’s people had it before Mount Sinai. Four chapters before the Ten Commandments were given on Mount Sinai. the God of heaven spoke in such a way that it is obvious that the seventh-day Sabbath was already well-known by the people of God—but not always well-kept: Read Exodus 16.”

So in keeping the Saturday Sabbath it is now about race? How foolish.

He concludes with:

“There are those who say that the seventh-day Sabbath was not commanded by God, nor kept by man before it was spoken from Mount Sinai in Exodus 20. But Genesis 2:1-3 and Exodus 16 prove otherwise.”

No where after the creation of Adam is there a commandment of God for Adam and his children to keep the Sabbath. That is a assumption of the author of these ‘facts’.

As we can read in Genesis the Torah or Old Testament is strangely silent about Adams descendants keeping a Saturday Sabbath which of course means it wasn’t important to God or man at the time. Also since we gentiles are also part of Adams DNA where is the grand history of Gentiles keeping the old Saturday Sabbath before the Israeli leader Moses?

In order to justify his position further the author of these ‘facts’ should find out through Biblical means whether or not Gentiles are to keep Sabbath or not.

“FACT NUMBER FOUR—The seventh-day Sabbath Commandment lies in the very heart of the Moral Law of Ten Commandments.”

As usual he uses the argument that the whole of the world (Or maybe just SDA) are to keep Gods Ten Commandments.

Exodus 20:8-11

EX 31:18; Deut 9:10

Jeremiah 31:33

Of course he forgets to list the whole Scripture pertaining that Jeremiah 31:1-40 is for Israel to the people of God.

Interestingly he also lists these:

James 2:10-12

Hebrews 10:16

Heb 8:10

When we read James 2:1-26. We find two subjects. Respect for the poor in the Church (2:1-13) and of course Faith must result in works (2:14-26). His choice to use James reflects that the use of the Ten Commandments was a reminder to the old Jewish population of the Church in that letter not for the gentile.

When we look at Hebrews.

Hebrews 8:1-13 talks about the old Jewish believers yet again.

Hebrews 10:1-39 Talks of Jesus sacrifice for both Jew and Gentile.

Remember that Jesus whom we call Christ died for both Jewish believers and Gentile believers otherwise only one group would join God in his heavenlies.

If we dare to consider the following in Matthew 5:17 Christ fulfilled the law. Also it appears in Matthew 5:18-39 Jesus changed the Ten Commandments. Either way if Christ made changes EG White has no right to enforce the Ten on her followers.

“FACT NUMBER FIVE—The weekly seventh-day Sabbath is part of the Moral Law contained in the Ten Commandments. It will stand forever. The yearly sabbaths were part of the ceremonial laws that prefigured, or foreshadowed, the death and ministry of Christ.”

His argument using the following Scriptures…

Hebrews 10:1-4

Colossians 2:14, 16-17

What are the examples from the Word that refutes EG White? Lets list these Scriptures:

Hebrews 1:1-14 through Hebrews 10:1-39 Shows us that Jesus is superior to Moses.

Colossians 2:1-23 Jesus is superior than EG Whites philosophy.

Will Saturday Sabbath be kept forever? No one really knows. Should God not EG White truly decide to gather his followers in the New Jerusalem to keep Sabbath I doubt any Christian or Jewish will mind much. For Gods followers to keep Sabbath will take extensive reeducation due to long history of Sunday keeping.

As usual the ENTIRE LAW of Moses CANNOT be separated from each other. The Ceremonial law and Moral law are the same Law not separate. To verify this I suggest to the author of this post I have commented on to email Torah.org or pick a Jewish website to see if the Law of Moses is for Christian Gentiles or only Jews.

“FACT NUMBER SIX—Christ’s disciples faithfully kept the Bible Sabbath, not Sunday.”

Jesus disciples were Jewish and of course kept the ENTIRE LAW OF MOSES AND Not merely the Ten Commandments till his death and resurrection.

However they gave no specific commandment for the Gentile about the Sabbath or the Ten Commandments till Acts 15:1-41.

Strangely enough that Jesus Resurrected on Sunday Morning and not the Sabbath.

Where does this proof come from? Notice these in the following Gospels.

Matthew 28:1

Mark 16:1-2

Luke 24:1

John 20:1

“FACT NUMBER SEVEN—According to the New Testament, the Apostles of Jesus always kept the Bible Sabbath.”

Yes we have already dealt with the fact that Jesus and his disciples were Jewish and that they kept the Sabbath. Again where is the Commandment from them or Christ that the Gentile is to keep Sabbath or the ENITIRE Law of Moses?

In his next ‘fact’ he makes the following claim.

“The Apostles kept the Bible Sabbath. Read Acts 13:14; Acts 13:42; Acts 16:13; Acts 17:1-2.”

Hmmm WHY did he skip Acts 11:1-30 about Peter preaching to the Gentiles? Yet no word about Sabbath keeping for them.

In Acts 13:1-52 It is Paul who ministers to the Jews. Later in Acts 13:44-52 Paul and Barnabas preach to the Gentiles. Yet no word on Ten commandment or Sabbath keeping for the Gentiles.

Its funny that the author of these ‘facts’ skipped over Acts 15 where the Law of Moses was skipped for the Gentiles.

In Acts 16:1-40 we find that Paul gives no commandments for Sabbath or Ten Commandment keeping for the Gentiles only to believe in Jesus.

This of course means that the Disciples of Christ wanted the Gentiles to be saved through Christ not old traditions.

Next in Acts 17:1-34 we find. That Paul went to debate the Jews first. In Acts 17:1-9.

The new Christians quickly sent Paul and Silas to Berea to keep them from getting killed by the angry Jews.

Next in Acts 17:10-18 Paul in Berea goes to his people and gains more followers for Christ through the Jews there.

Paul in Acts 17:19-34 is brought to Areopagus and Paul preaches about Jesus to the

Gentiles. Yet still no commandment on Sabbath or Ten Commandment keeping.

It is very obvious that in the Acts of the Apostles they were given no commandments to bother the new Gentile believers to keep the Ten Commandments or Sabbath. This is found in Acts 15.

Despite the use of various other Scriptures by the author of these ‘facts’. It is clear that the Jewish followers of Christ understood that Jesus made very specific changes and they were not to argue with them.

“FACT NUMBER EIGHT—God predicted in Scripture that men would later try to change the Law of God—and especially the “time law.”

In this next section the author of this article uses his lifelong brain washing to claim that the Catholic Church somehow changed Gods Ten commandment laws. I of course argue that the Disciples of Christ in Acts 15 gave specific Commandments to the Gentile.

In Daniel 7:25 he or she claims that the Antichrist (AKA Catholic Pope) will:

“”And he [the little horn power] shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into His hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”—Daniel 7:25.”

 

“The church of the Dark Ages was to rule the world for 1260 years, and during this time would try to tear out God’s holy Time Law, and put a counterfeit in its place. Oh, what blasphemy men can dream up, when they are tempted by Satan to gain religious control of their fellow men!”

Hmmm and yet it was Christ and his Disciples to change the Law of Moses and the dynamics of following God. Otherwise Jesus died for nothing if we are to keep the old Jewish laws and of course go to church or synagogue on Saturday.

In the study Bible I use in the notes of Daniel it says regarding Daniel 7:1-28 The four beasts. The actual term of Antichrist isn’t listed till Daniel 11:36-45.

Further more the meaning of Daniel’s dream is found in Dan 7:15-28. The Pope is a religious leader at present and not a political leader. He has no rule over the USA, EU or the UN so how much power does he really have? No one knows.

“FACT NUMBER NINE—The seventh-day Sabbath, instituted by God at the Creation of this world, is the seal of His governmental authority.”

The author of these statements… ER… “facts” makes the further claim:

“God’s basic governmental code for mankind is the Ten Commandments. Of those ten, only the Sabbath commandment reveals the name of our Creator and Lawgiver.”

 

“Of all the commandments in the Decalogue, only the Fourth Commandment reveals the (1) name, (2) authority, and (3) dominion of the Author of this Law:”

 

“In six days, (1) the Lord (name) (2) made (office—the Creator) (3) heaven and earth (dominion or territory over which He rules). This commandment alone contains the seal of God.”

Uhm… No the ENTIRE LAW OF MOSES was for the Israelis or Jews. Not the Gentile. Is Moses Laws, Ten Commandments, or the Sabbath Gods seal of salvation for Gentiles? Not according to this:

Ephesians 1:1-23

In the philosophy of this SDA author he uses the following Scriptures to justify his belief that he is part of Israel.

“”It [the Sabbath] is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed.”—Exodus 31:17.”

 

“Ezekiel 20:20, Isaiah 8:16, Revelation 7:2-3 (Ezekiel 9:1-6), Exodus 34:6…”

 

“”And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with Him an hundred forty and four thousand, having His Father’s name written in their foreheads.”—Revelation 14:1.”

He then proclaims against those of us who Worship Christ on Sunday.

“When God writes His name on your forehead and right hand, this means He writes His law on your heart. This is the work of the new covenant (Heb 8:10; 10:16; Jeremiah 31:33); and that work reaches its climax when God “seals in” His own people, just before He returns the second time in the clouds of heaven. What are those sealed ones like? They are fully obedient to the Law of God:”

 

“And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.”—Revelation 14:5.”

 

“But in the final crisis before His return, there will be a people who will yield obedience to the beast instead of to God.”

 

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.”—Revelation 14:9-10, 12.”

 

“And he [the beast] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads.”—Revelation 13:16.

 

“In contrast with those who serve the beast and receive his mark, are those who in the last days will serve God and receive His seal. How can they be identified? God has told us in His Word. Here is a description of God’s remnant people at the end of time:”

 

“And the dragon [Satan, working through his agents] was wroth with the woman [the true church], and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”—Revelation 12:17.”

 

“And the third angel of Revelation 14, which warns men to not receive the mark of the beast, also tells them how to avoid receiving it—by keeping the commandments of God through the faith of Jesus Christ:”

 

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture . . Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”—Revelation 14:9-10, 12.”

“The final crisis will be caused by a decree by the beast that all men must disobey a commandment of the law of God. The nations and churches of the world will not require men to steal or lie or commit adultery. The growing movement toward national Sunday laws is growing stronger every passing year. It is seen that in this point, and in this alone, will be found the heart of the crisis of Revelation 13 and 14.”

 

“The first angel of Revelation 14 calls on all men everywhere, today, to reverence God—by returning to the worship of the Creator of all things.”

 

“And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people:”

 

“Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”—Revelation 14:7.”

These paragraphs of course reflect the flawed philosophy and teaching instilled within all followers of EG White.

Take note that in his philosophy he thinks of the SDA ‘church’ to be keepers of the Ten Commandments and the even stranger ideology that the SDA church is somehow the new Israel.

These ideas come not from Jesus but EG Whites writings.

In these Scriptures we find the trademark SDA philosophies:

Those who don’t keep SDA teaching will get this: Revelation 13:15-17.

Those who gain Salvation will do so through the SDA organization:

“But there is victory for those who will stand true to the God of heaven. There is overcoming power for those who will “keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” (Rev 14:12).”

And yet we Gentiles were not given either the Ten Commandments or the Theocratic Law of Moses. In fact we would have been second class citizens under a Jewish Theocracy.

“FACT NUMBER TEN—God’s remnant people will keep the Bible Sabbath, and that holy day will be kept throughout eternity.”

That is his or her opinion.

SDA teaching is not based off of Jesus Christ but their own version of Jesus created by EG White. This authors use of:

Revelation 12:17

Revelation 14:12

Revelation 21:1; 22:1

Revelation 22:14.

Isaiah 65:17, 21-22, 25; 66:22-23

And so forth donot indicate that ONLY the SDA organization / church will be the only ones saved. They like this author can twist Scripture all they want but in reality their faith is to be for Jesus not EG White or her lackies.

In his article he quotes from Revelation 14:1-20. This quote is also mentioned in Revelation 7:1-10. This author of this post is either ignorant or deluded to think he has any access to the Twelve tribes of Israel. After all the Twelve Tribes of Jewish Israel make up the 144,000 not SDA believers.

If these are his only facts this SDA follower has these 10 ‘facts’ are not really facts but only his or her opinion.

Perhaps these SDA authors should re consider their faith in a dead gal and put their Faith in Jesus Christ the whole reason for Christianity.

To Conclude:

SDA followers SHOULD BE WARNED God gave Moses 613 Commandments that we call the Law of Moses. The Ten Commandments that these SDA followers and other Theonomists follow CANNOT be separated from the rest of the Law of Moses. Those who do so will eventually gain a curse from God because of the teachings of false prophets and false Christs.

As we have seen with my amateur response to this authors “facts” we can see that it has nothing to do with true Facts but simple philosophy, Theonomy and a SDA followers opinions.

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