Further SDA Sabbath teachings and my reply

Last night (01-21-2010) before I went to bed I was snooping around the internet and found the following Theonomy:

“The Sabbath”

“1 The Sabbath was introduced on the seventh day of creation week as a memorial of God’s creatorship. On that day God rested; then He blessed the seventh day and set it apart for a holy purpose. Genesis 2:2, 3. “


“2 After Israel left Egypt, God again made plain the obligation of the seventh-day Sabbath to His people, and included it in His Ten Commandments. Exodus 16:4, 5, 14-30; 20:8-11. “


“3 In the centuries that followed, the obligation of the Sabbath was kept before Israel by the prophets. Ezekiel 20:12, 20. “


“4 It was because of their violation of the Sabbath that Israel and Judah went into captivity. Jeremiah 17:27. “


“5 After the Babylonian captivity, Sabbath reform was prominent among the needed changes as the people were established again in their homeland. Nehemiah 9:14; 10:31; 13:15-22. “


6 The life and teachings of Jesus highlighted the sacredness and significance of the Sabbath. Mark 27, 28; Luke 4:16.


“7 The coming of apostasy and turning away from the Sabbath was foretold in prophecy. Daniel 7:25; Revelation 13. “


“8 Special emphasis is placed on the commandments of God and the restoration of the Sabbath among God’s people in the last days. Revelation 14:7, 12; Isaiah 58:12-14. “


“9 The sabbath is to be a test for the world in last days. Revelation 13:17. “


“10 The Sabbath will be kept by God’s people in the new earth. Isaiah 66:23.”


Pretty standard SDA teaching.

Here are my dispensationalist arguments against this type of teaching.

1 The OT (Torah) was directly meant for the peoples who followed Moses. God not only gave them 10 Commandments but 613 others that Jewish folk still maintain till today. A simply reading of the Text proves that the gentiles were not given those Commandments. Despite the authors claims there is no Commandment from God for Gentiles to keep Saturday Sabbath. Any other opinions are heresy.

2 Yes the ancient Israelites were given a Theocratic code of conduct. My question to the author of this post is WHY they use these laws to justify their morality or salvation doctrines when it is obviously clear that SDA followers are not Jewish.

3 Exactly how does ‘Ezekiel 20:12, 20’ fit the SDA church? After all this sect calls itself Christian and yet this particular author prefers to use OT Scriptures to justify Sabbath keeping. See Ezekiel 20:1-49 and notice whom this prophecy REALLY is for.

4 The author of this post uses Jeremiah 17:27 in order to continue in their Theonomy philosophy. Again how does Jeremiah 17:1-27 apply to the SDA sect or the Twenty first century Christian Church? God sent us Jesus to be our rest. If this is a true statement than anything EG White wrote in the past is meaningless lies.

5 This posts author lists the following: ‘Nehemiah 9:14; 10:31; 13:15-22.’ Lets look at these listed Scriptures.

Nehemiah 9:1-38

Nehemiah 10:1-39

Nehemiah 13:11-31

Nehemiah is the history of the Jewish remnant. With the permission of King Artaxerxes they are allowed to return to the ruins of Jerusalem to rebuild the walls and city.

Again how does SDA Theonomy really fit into Christianity folks? That’s right… It doesn’t… its as if the author of this post assumes anything to do with Saturday Sabbath immediately is theirs alone to use and abuse.

6 I noticed a typo by this posts author his reference should read Mark 2:1-28 there is no Mark 27: or 28:. I think he meant to say Mark 2:23-28 in his attempt at Theonomy. These are not Commandments by Jesus but statements about Sabbath directed towards his fellow Jews. He also misuses Luke 4:1-44.

If we bother to study each Gospel we find that Jesus statements about the Jewish Sabbath in no way reflect EG Whites writings about it. In fact Jesus teaches something completely different than the long dead ‘Prophetess’ of the SDA.

7 Lets look at his references Daniel 7:1-28 and Revelation 13:1-18. Daniel 7:1-28 Are future prophecies about this world. Its quite presumptuous of this author to assume that a specific religion or Government ‘changed’ Gods Theocratic law to what we have now. What this writer has done is attempted to place EG Whites ideas as a type of Biblical theology but instead shows her ultimate foolishness. This prophecy in Daniel appears to me about the Anti-Christ who will destroy ALL of Christianity not just EG Whites followers.

Lets look at Revelation 13:1-18. Again we are warned from John that this Anti-Christ WILL DESTROY ALL of Christianity see verse Rev 13:7. This means that ANYONE who professes Jesus Christ as Lord will be a target and exterminated. This of course makes EG Whites writings suspect because in her warped imagination its only those who keep the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath who are the target. See Great Controversy


“The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan

“The Conflict of the Ages in the Christian Dispensation”

“CHAPTER 39 The Time of Trouble”

As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. It will be urged that the few who stand in opposition to an institution of the church and a law of the state ought not to be tolerated; that it is better for them to suffer than for whole nations to be thrown into confusion and lawlessness. The same argument eighteen hundred years ago was brought against Christ by the “rulers of the people.” “It is expedient for us,” said the wily Caiaphas, “that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.” John 11:50. This argument will appear conclusive; and a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts.


“The Great Controversy Between Christ and Satan

“The Conflict of the Ages in the Christian Dispensation”

“CHAPTER 40 God’s People Delivered”

“When the protection of human laws shall be withdrawn from those who honor the law of God, there will be, in different lands, a simultaneous movement for their destruction. As the time appointed in the decree draws near, the people will conspire to root out the hated sect. It will be determined to strike in one night a decisive blow, which shall utterly silence the voice of dissent and reproof. “


“The people of God–some in prison cells, some hidden in solitary retreats in the forests and the mountains–still plead for divine protection, while in every quarter companies of armed men, urged on by hosts of evil angels, are preparing for the work of death. It is now, in the hour of utmost extremity, that the God of Israel will interpose for the deliverance of His chosen. Saith the Lord; “Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth . . . to come into the mountain of the Lord, to the Mighty One of Israel. And the Lord shall cause His glorious voice to be heard, and shall show the lighting down of His arm, with the indignation of His anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.” Isaiah 30:29, 30. “


“With shouts of triumph, jeering, and imprecation, throngs of evil men are about to rush upon their prey, when, lo, a dense blackness, deeper than the darkness of the night, falls upon the earth. Then a rainbow, shining with the glory from the throne of God, spans the heavens and seems to encircle each praying company. The angry multitudes are suddenly arrested. Their mocking cries die away. The objects of their murderous rage are forgotten. With fearful forebodings they gaze upon the symbol of God’s covenant and long to be shielded from its overpowering brightness. “


These are only two small paragraphs detailing EG Whites fantasies. Be warned the SDA ‘church’ as long as they profess Christ will to suffer as easily as any ‘Sunday keeper’.

8 Is the author correct about Revelation 14:1-20 and Isaiah 58:1-14? As usual NO!

Lets look at those.

Revelation 14:1-20 If the author of this post assumes he is part of the 144,000 Servants of God. He is solely deceived please look at Revelation 7:1-17 to view whom are the TRUE 144,000 JEWISH Servants of God.

In Revelation 14:1-20 deals with the actions of the JEWISH Servants of God. The author of this post may wish other wise but there is no real argument.

Isaiah 58:1-14. In my study Bible Isaiah 58 deals with Israel. Not Christians. So is it the opinion, theory, fantasy of this author to assume they are a Neo Israel. I can assume so. The Scriptures are quite clear the SDA Church are not part of Israel nor did they replace the Jewish nation.

9 Is the author of this post correct about Revelation 13:1-18 (Rev 13:17)? Nope.

Revelation 13:17-18 refers to the Techno mark of the ‘Beast’ and has little to do with Saturday Sabbath or Sunday. If it was true that keeping a specific day was the mark of the beast our Bible should have warned us.

In keeping Saturday or Sunday as rest days has little to do with using a ‘credit card’ like system where we buy and sell items that can be considered as a microchip or other form of ID that is placed in the hand or foreheads.

Any idea that is contrary to the Bible is mere philosophy and human made theory.

10 Is the author correct about Isaiah 66:1-24?

Lets begin with the earlier chapters of Isaiah 63:1-19, 64:1-12, 65:1-25, Isaiah 66:1-24.

If its not obvious for you dear reader the entire book of Isaiah has to do with Israel. Although we can surmise we Gentiles / Christians have a hand in the scope of the End times. We are not specifically prophesized over in the last chapters of Isaiah.

However is it remotely possible God will Command both Jew and Gentile to keep a new Sabbath I can assume so. This new Sabbath with our Lord Jesus will be one of Worship and Holiness. Not of fool hearted questions and theological disagreements.

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