My response to Richard rives 5 Part series “To A Thousand Generations”

Good ole ‘tricky dick’ has posted the following 5 part email series involving Theonomy / Judaizing starting in Jan 2013.

———————-Part one posted 1-23-2013————————————————–

“In my books and videos I document the fact that many aspects of traditional Christianity are actually modified forms of pagan sun worship. ”

“Theologians are well aware, however many of them have persuaded unsuspecting believers, and even themselves that our Creator does not at all mind. ”

“The nation of Israel worshipped the very same God and thought the very same thing. They were mistaken. The God of the Bible is a jealous God shewing mercy unto those who love Him and keep His commandments and counting the iniquities of those who do not.”

“The association of elements of pagan sun worship with that of the Creator is indirect violation of the first four commandments which tell us how to love the LORD. “

“While the LORD is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, the willful practice of sin will not prosper.”

“The Old Testament scriptures were written for our admonition.”

“Shortly after the children of Israel had been freed from captivity in Egypt we find Moses atop Mt.Sinai receiving the Ten Commandments. When Moses delayed to come down the people built a golden calf, associating it with a feast to the LORD. ”

“Only days before they had witnessed the presence of God descending upon the mountain in fire, with lightning and earthquakes. They had heard with their own ears the words of His commandments which forbade association with other gods, and yet they attempt to associate aspects of pagan worship with that of the Creator. ”

“Somehow they had convinced themselves that God would do nothing. They were wrong. If not for the plea of Moses the people would have been consumed. We are told that the LORD plagued the people, because they made the calf.”

“Throughout the Bible we find numerous examples of how the chosen people of God thought that they could adopt elements of pagan sun worship and somehow escape the wrath of God. “

 

“We are told that the LORD sent prophets warning them to turn from their evil ways, but that they would not listen.”

 

“Today, in violation of the first four commandments, known elements of pagan sun worship are proclaimed to be Christian in nature. “

 

“Now, as was the case in ancient Israel, many claim to fear the LORD while refusing to do what He says. Just as the chosen people of times past, unsuspecting believers have been persuaded that God does not care, and will do nothing. They too are mistaken.”

 

“The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

 

“Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

“Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints; I’m Richard Rives with Just the Facts.”

————————-Part 2:—————————————————————–

 

“To A Thousand Generations – Part 2 of 5”

” by Richard Rives “

02-01-2013

“In my books and videos I document the fact that many aspects of traditional Christianity are actually modified forms of pagan sun worship. ”

” Theologians are well aware, however many of them have persuaded unsuspecting believers, and even themselves that our Creator does not at all mind. “

” The nation of Israel worshipped the very same God and thought the very same thing. They were mistaken. The God of the Bible is a jealous God shewing mercy unto those who love Him and keep His commandments and counting the iniquities of those who do not.”

” The association of elements of pagan sun worship with that of the Creator is indirect violation of the first four commandments which tell us how to love the LORD. ”

” While the LORD is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, the willful practice of sin will not prosper.”

” The Old Testament scriptures were written for our admonition.”

” During the time of the Judges the children of Israel once again did evil in the sight of the LORD. They forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. They thought there would be no consequences. They were mistaken. ”

” They provoked the LORD to anger. He delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies. ”

” Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the LORD was against them for evil, as the LORD had said, and as the LORD had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed… Nevertheless the LORD raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them. And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the LORD; but they did not so.”

” Throughout the Bible we find numerous examples of how the chosen people of God thought that they could adopt elements of pagan sun worship and somehow escape the wrath of God. ”

” We are told that the LORD sent prophets warning them to turn from their evil ways, but that they would not listen.”

” Today, in violation of the first four commandments, known elements of pagan sun worship are proclaimed to be Christian in nature. “

” Now, as was the case in ancient Israel, many claim to fear the LORD while refusing to do what He says. Just as the chosen people of times past, unsuspecting believers have been persuaded that God does not care, and will do nothing. They too are mistaken.

 The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

 

” Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

” Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints; I’m Richard Rives with Just the Facts.”

————————-Part 3:—————————————————————–

“To A Thousand Generations – Part 3 of 5 by Richard Rives”

02-07-2013

“In my books and videos I document the fact that many aspects of traditional Christianity are actually modified forms of pagan sun worship. ”

” Theologians are well aware, however many of them have persuaded unsuspecting believers, and even themselves that our Creator does not at all mind. “

” The nation of Israel worshipped the very same God and thought the very same thing. They were mistaken. The God of the Bible is a jealous God shewing mercy unto those who love Him and keep His commandments and counting the iniquities of those who do not.”

” The association of elements of pagan sun worship with that of the Creator is indirect violation of the first four commandments which tell us how to love the LORD. “

” While the LORD is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, the willful practice of sin will not prosper.”

” The Old Testament scriptures were written for our admonition.”

” King Solomon is known to have been given exceptional wisdom, yet, in his latter years, he turned his heart after other gods. ”

” The LORD God of Israel had appeared unto him twice and plainly instructed that he was not to go after other gods. Even so, we are told that Solomon kept not that which the Lord commanded.”

” While the presence of God dwelt in the Holy of Holies, right across the Kidron valley, in plain view of the temple mount, Solomon made provision for the worship of other gods. ”

” Somehow he had convinced himself that God would do nothing. Even with all the wisdom Solomon had been given, he was wrong! ”

” Because he had attempted to participate in pagan forms of worship while at the same time claiming devotion to the LORD God of Israel his kingdom was taken from him and divided.”

” Throughout the Bible we find numerous examples of how the chosen people of God thought that they could adopt elements of pagan sun worship and somehow escape the wrath of God. ”

” We are told that the LORD sent prophets warning them to turn from their evil ways, but that they would not listen.”

” Today, in violation of the first four commandments, known elements of pagan sun worship are proclaimed to be Christian in nature. “

 

” Now, as was the case in ancient Israel, many claim to fear the LORD while refusing to do what He says. Just as the chosen people of times past, unsuspecting believers have been persuaded that God does not care, and will do nothing. They too are mistaken. “

 

” The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

” Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

” Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints; I’m Richard Rives with Just the Facts.”

————————Part 4:————————————————–

“To A Thousand Generations – Part 4 of 5 by Richard Rives”

02-12-2013

“In my books and videos I document the fact that many aspects of traditional Christianity are actually modified forms of pagan sun worship. ”

” Theologians are well aware, however many of them have persuaded unsuspecting believers, and even themselves that our Creator does not at all mind. “

” The nation of Israel worshipped the very same God and thought the very same thing. They were mistaken. The God of the Bible is a jealous God shewing mercy unto those who love Him and keep His commandments and counting the iniquities of those who do not.”

” The association of elements of pagan sun worship with that of the Creator is indirect violation of the first four commandments which tell us how to love the LORD. ”

” While the LORD is long suffering, not willing that any should perish, the willful practice of sin will not prosper.”

” The Old Testament scriptures were written for our admonition.”

” During the time of the divided kingdom The children of Israel did secretly those things that were not right against the LORD their God. They built high places and set up images associated with the worship of other gods.”

” They left the commandments of the LORD their God, even to the extent of altering the timing of the feast of Passover to their own liking. They made molten images, and burnt incense in the high places. Just as the heathen nations around them, they worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.”

” We are told that the Nation of Israel sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. ”

” Yet the LORD testified against Israel… by all the prophets, and by all the seers… saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers…Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks…”

” After all the warnings they had been given, the people did not believe that a penalty would be required for their sins. They were wrong. ”

” The LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.”

” Throughout the Bible we find numerous examples of how the chosen people of God thought that they could adopt elements of pagan sun worship and somehow escape the wrath of God. ”

We are told that the LORD sent prophets warning them to turn from their evil ways, but that they would not listen.

” Today, in violation of the first four commandments, known elements of pagan sun worship are proclaimed to be Christian in nature. “

” Now, as was the case in ancient Israel, many claim to fear the LORD while refusing to do what He says. Just as the chosen people of times past, unsuspecting believers have been persuaded that God does not care, and will do nothing. They too are mistaken. ”

” The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

 

” Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

” Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints; I’m Richard Rives with Just the Facts.”

————————Part 5:———————————————————————–

“To A Thousand Generations – Part 5 of 5”

” by Richard Rives”

“02-20-2013”

“The Old Testament scriptures were written for our admonition.”

” In 722 B.C. the northern kingdom of Israel was taken captive by the Assyrians. Scripture informs us that it was all because they would not keep Gods commandments. In direct violation of His commandments they became involved with pagan forms of worship.”

” With the northern kingdom in Assyrian captivity, all that was left was the southern kingdom of Judah; yet in spite of all that had happened to the northern tribes Judah behaved no differently.”

” High places for the worship of pagan gods and goddesses surrounded the city of Jerusalem. Elements of sun worship stood at the entrance of the house of the LORD; and, within the temple itself, Baal and all the host of heaven were worshipped. Just as the northern Kingdom, the people of Judah whom God had protected for a thousand years thought he would do nothing. They too were wrong. ”

” Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon came and broke down the walls of Jerusalem. He slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, having no compassion upon women and those that were old. ”

” Nebuchadnezzar burnt the house of the LORD and all the people that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they became his servants. All because the people of Judah, God’s chosen people refused to keep His commandments.”

” This commentary concludes a 5 part series entitled “TO A THOUSAND GENERATIONS.”

” Part one dealt with the proclamation of a feast to the LORD that the chosen people tried to associate with a Golden Calf – a pagan image that they constructed at Mt.Sinai. ”

” Part two spoke of the time of the Judges when an attempt was made to combine the worship of Baal and Ashteroth with that of the Almighty.”

” In Part three we discussed the fact that while the presence of God dwelt in the Holy of Holies, right across the Kidron valley, in plain view of the temple mount, King Solomon made provision for the worship of other gods.”

” In Part four we find that the Northern Kingdom of Israel, God’s chosen people, made molten images, and burnt incense in the high places. Just as the heathen nations around them, they worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. They left the commandments of the LORD their God.”

” And finally, in summary of this commentary, part 5, within the Kingdom of Judah, Elements of pagan sun worship stood at the very entrance of the house of the LORD.”

” In every instance God’s chosen people made an attempt to combine elements of pagan worship with the worship of the Creator. In every instance the result was catastrophic.

Scripture states plainly that God is not a respecter of persons.”

” Throughout the Bible we find numerous examples of how the chosen people of God thought that they could adopt elements of pagan sun worship and somehow escape the wrath of God. ”

” We are told that the LORD sent prophets warning them to turn from their evil ways, but that they would not listen.”

‘ Today, in violation of the first four commandments, known elements of pagan sun worship are proclaimed to be Christian in nature. ”

” Now, as was the case in ancient Israel, many claim to fear the LORD while refusing to do what He says. Just as the chosen people of times past, unsuspecting believers have been persuaded that God does not care, and will do nothing. They too are mistaken. ‘

” The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

” Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

“Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints; I’m Richard Rives with Just the Facts.”

The following sections below are My responses to each parts he sent out in email.

====================Part 1:========================================

In my blog I have not only given evidence that rives is a false Christian but goes against the teachings of the Bible itself with all this idiotic philosophy he created because he is trying to be a neo-Jew.

Harsh? You bet!!

Let’s review rives philosophy and then compare his teachings with our Bibles.

Is the Ten Commandments & the Law of Moses for we Christians?

Let’s look at those Theocratic laws AGAIN!

Exodus 20:1-17. Who is God talking to? Moses or Jesus? If rives actually read his Bible he would figure out that God was talking to Moses. So if the Law of MOSES was for ancient Israel and not modern day Christians, than who is rives following? Because of this odd philosophy he follows the Torah and not the Christian Bible.

Next does Jesus COMMAND the Law of Moses for non Jews? In order to disprove me rives has to PROVE to our Christian church we are violating Jesus teachings. But instead he only proves he is a false teacher.

Jesus HIMSELF educated his fellow Jews on the most important parts of the Law of Moses.

Matthew 22:33-40

Mark 12:28-34

Since Jesus knows better than Richard rives about Moses laws who will you all follow…? Rives the false teacher…? or Jesus our Lord?

==================Part 2 thru 4:====================================

Notice that he simply repeats the same wording in ALL 3 emails!!? But I digress…

I noticed that rives is using Judges 2:1-23 in part 2.

Now why would he bother to do that? Mostly because he feels that the modern Christian church is living in apostasy while he seemingly partakes in “1st Century Christianity” I/E Judaizing.

Rives might think he is a ‘judge’ like in the 19 chapters of Judges. But in reality he is false teacher and Judaizer.

Next Theologians only deal with issues related to Theology and doctrine. So how are the claims of rives so called paganism in Christianity related to Theology? After all according to Exodus 20:1-17 if the Ten Commandments in relating ONLY to Jewish Israel in both the texts of the Torah & Christian Bible.

So if both texts inform both Jew & Christian that the Law of Moses was for only one group than it should be obvious that Richard Rives teaching HIS OWN version of Christianity and not TRUE Christianity.

What rives is trying to do whether he knows it or not is trying to change the culture of Christianity but not to help fellow Christians but to lead them to Judaizing or worse Noahite theology.

Good ole ‘tricky dick’ keeps on with the same lame mentality offering nothing new in the last 3 emailed posts. In fact he keeps repeating his mantra with the following.

” The Old Testament scriptures WERE written for our admonition. Let us not tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted. All his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

 

” Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments – – to a thousand generations;”

Rives has created a mantra with the following word ‘admonition’. And yet the New Testament clearly says.

Galatians 2:16

Hebrews 9:1-28

Hebrews 10:1-10

I have already refuted this philosophy of his repeatedly and frankly I am tired of having to repeat myself. And as usual he has refused to even answer any of the posts I have on my blog nor has he refuted any of those posts relating to his Judaizing / Theonomy.

==============My response to Part 5:==============================

Yet again rives simply repeats his arguments. Which means there is nothing new to argue about. It’s as if rives thinks his philosophy and incorrect history are enough to dissuade we Christians from our faith in order to serve his legalist god.

Well that intent has backfired on him.

Rives and others like him use the Old Testament to ‘prove’ that we Christians are to somehow keep the Law of Moses. And yet rives himself breaks the very Law by only keeping the Ten out of 613. And yet he is correct??    Of the Jews I have talked to over the years they tell me the same thing. “The Law of Moses was for Israel and not the Gentile.”

Rives can’t understand that by trying to keep the Law.

A) He is following a Theocratic system created by God & Moses.

B) While Jesus taught from the Law as a Jew & God. He did not give Commandments to keep the Law for those of us who are Gentiles or Non Jews. He instead created a new moral system from it.

C) Neither Jesus or the Disciples spoke Commandments to gather on Saturday Sabbath for Non Jews / Gentiles. Instead they allowed their new Brothers & Sisters in Jesus to chose a day of rest & worship.

And so if both Jesus & the Disciples are against Rives then why are any of you following him or supporting his satanic programs and writings?

===========My Conclusions:=================================

In the Bible admonition means:

“admonishing”

“ADMON’ISHING, ppr. Reproving; warning; counseling; directing.”

http://av1611.com/kjbp/kjv-dictionary/admonish.html

Well… That’s fine if you a Judaizing legalist like richard rives. But for myself all I need is Jesus and the New Testament I consider the Torah for Israel / Jews.

Questions for richard rives.

1 Where does it say in the Gospels that Jesus requires his followers to keep the Law of Moses?

2 Where does it say in the Bible that Gentiles are to keep the Saturday Sabbath?

3 Where does Jesus or the Disciples teach & preach that modern Christians need to become messianic Jews?

4 How doe you explain that Christians are to keep the Ten Commandments but ignore the rest of the Law of Moses of which are a total of 613 Commandments?

5 How can you explain how Christians are part of the Torah of Israel?

6 Can you explain how the Writings of the Disciples are contrary to what you teach?


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