My response to Imam Zaid and his Taqiyya about Honor killing

 

Back in August of 2008 I found the following article written by a ‘Imam Zaid’.

“Islam and Honor Killings (Revised)”

“By Imam Zaid on 13 December 2007”

http://www.newislamicdirections.com/nid/notes/islam_and_honor_killings_revised/

Upon first glance it seemed to be a typical article attempting to deny the cultural problem of ‘honor killing’ within the system of islam. What was worse was his attempt to draw a correlation to the problems of gang murders in Guatemala calling the country ‘Christian.’ Of course calling a entire country Christian without proof is a foolish attempt at drawing away the problems Islam the system  faces.

As a muslim defender he at least agrees that something is wrong within islam as a system and attempts to solve the problem with the following suggestions in his conclusion.

“Practical steps include the following: “

 

“1. Emphasize that such killings have no sanction in the Qur’an, the Prophetic practice, or in Islamic law. “

 

“2. Declare anyone guilty of involvement in honor killings to be a cold-blooded murderer. “

 

“3. Encourage judicial authorities to enact the harshest penalties possible for anyone accused of involvement in such killings. “

 

“4. Educate our Muslim communities, especially in the West, about the un-Islamic nature of honor killings, and the pressures, nuances, challenges and complications facing young Muslims, male and female in the West. “

 

“5. Work to eliminate the double standards, and to expose the hypocrisy that exist in our communities, generally, concerning attitudes and standards relating to the indiscretions of males as opposed to females. “

Yet how are these ideas of his going to help the muslim immigrants that have long been trained in family and personal ‘honor’? After all muslims as a community would have to attempt to change both old and young in their shared culture to vilify any potential murderer for something that they were trained in from their ‘Arabian’ youth.

His complaints about ‘attacks’ against islam are not without decent reasons.

Muslims attack and criticize; Western culture, Christianity, Israel, Atheists, Hindus and many other groups, communities and  then expect not to be researched and answered  back by a myriad of angry people?

The many critics of Islamists have personal, private or professional reasons to question Islamic ethics, theology, mujahedeen or violent actions against both muslims and non muslims, Islamist propaganda involving Sharia laws and Sharia banking. The list of subjects for criticism goes on…

In his article he complains:

“The overwhelming majority of Muslim societies are free from the practice of honor killing, although it does endure in some parts of the Middle East and South Asia. According to statistics released by the United Nations in 2000 there are approximately 5,000 deaths annually from “honor” killings. Even if one killing occurred due to such barbarity, it would be one too many, as the Qur’an emphasizes. “

 

“However, to use the existence of such killings to smear Islam shows the desperation and misplaced priorities of many of those levying such attacks. Most of those deaths are the pathetic acts of sick individuals, who are far removed from the letter, as we have shown above, and the spirit of Islam. An example of such an individual is Muhammad Riaz, a British Muslim of South Asian descent who died as a result of a fire he set to burn to death his wife and four daughters, allegedly because his wife resisted his attempt to arrange marriages for his daughters. His wife and daughters did perish in that fire. To present Riaz, whose daughters had neither fornicated nor dated, as anything other than a sick individual is a sad attempt to defame Islam. “

 

“To attack Islam from this angle is a case of misplaced priorities because it can distract attention from far graver abuses of women that demand immediate redress. For example, the State Department estimates that approximately 800,000 women and girls are trafficked as sexual slaves annually. The overwhelming majority of these females are taken from and sent to nominally Christian countries.”

 

“Over the last five years well over one thousand women have been kidnapped and then gruesomely murdered in Guatemala. Their bodies usually turn up after a few days, mutilated and in some instances with messages such as “death to bitches” written on them. To date only three men have been incarcerated in connection with those attacks. Would it be proper to thereby conclude that the “Christians” of Guatemala, an overwhelmingly Christian nation, have no regard for the suffering of their women? Of course it would not. “

 

“At the end of the day, attacks such as the one that resulted in the death of Aqsa Parvez are acts of domestic violence resulting from rage that emanates from a total neglect of Islamic teachings. Ms. Parvez lost her life due to such violence and perhaps there are a few other instances where Muslims women in Canada or here in the United States, have been similarly victimized. However, these instances should be kept in perspective. In the United States there are approximately 1,200 women killed every year by their husbands or intimate partners. There are other “Christian” nations where murders of this type are even higher. “

 

“The United States, Guatemala, and other countries we could mention where similar abuses occur are Christian nations. However, it would be disingenuous to use such statistics as an indictment against Christianity. These issues are an affront to humanity and require our collective attention. Until we all view the problem this way, we are in jeopardizing the health and integrity of our society.”

Granted not every Islamic country SEEMINGLY donot have ‘honor killings’ listed as a criminal act which can also mean that they donot happen there OR THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED a vile crime against the muslima and her children who die from the attacks of husbands, fathers, brothers, cousins etc.

Notice his complaint?

“However, to use the existence of such killings to smear Islam shows the desperation and misplaced priorities of many of those levying such attacks. Most of those deaths are the pathetic acts of sick individuals, who are far removed from the letter, as we have shown above, and the spirit of Islam”.

We non muslim critics of Islam have no use for ‘smear’ campaigns but are attempting through individual means to show Islam is not a religion or system that can simply be used to change the many wrongs within our Western societies.

The SYSTEM of islam is even sicker than our worst portions of Western societies because of stories like this.

“Islamic Ghost Shelters for Women”

 “by Azadeh Azad”

“20-Dec-2007”

http://iranian.com/main/node/13984

“None of the above ghost shelters taught women any useful skill or profession that could be beneficial to them once they were out on their own. The shelters offered teaching of sewing and embroidery, which were not useful for the modern world. Also, there was no psychologist, psychotherapist or psychiatrist available to the women in the shelters who were victims of unloving families and a misogynist culture. “

 

“In February 2006, following a claim by the Foundation for the Oppressed (Bonyad-e Mosta’zafan) over Omidvar Centre ownership rights, the shelter was ordered by the Revolutionary Court to close down. The police used violence, forcing the women residents out into the streets. Most of the women had jobs, but with no roof over their heads, they did not see how they could continue their employment. The Foundation of the Oppressed once again showed its true face to the public by depriving homeless women of their place of refuge. And according to the Iran Association of Social Workers, two HIV-positive girls from this shelter were now on the run.”

And this is how the Islamic system treats its own?

Islam as a system has never been a ‘liberator’ of women but places them as property to thier husbands and his family. If the criticisms of Islams treatment of itys own were untrue then the many horror stories we can find online would never be reported.

Even muslims / muslimas have spoken out against this issue within islam.

“Honor Killings not part of Islamic teachings”

“By: Shirien Elmasraya”

“Posted: 4/18/08”

http://www.irfi.org/articles2/articles_2351_2400/Honor%20Killings%20not%20part%20of%20Islamic%20teachings.HTM

Ex Muslims have also taken note of this horrific crime and made their own articles about it and condemning those who commit murder for honor.

“Honor killing is it Islamic?”

“Syed Kamran Mirza”

“Published on July 17, 2005”

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/skm/honor_killing.htm

“Honor Killing”

“By Ali Sina”

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50128.htm

This is just a small portion of online articles that can be researched and read.

The next paragraphs of his article made me cringe:

“To attack Islam from this angle is a case of misplaced priorities because it can distract attention from far graver abuses of women that demand immediate redress. For example, the State Department estimates that approximately 800,000 women and girls are trafficked as sexual slaves annually. The overwhelming majority of these females are taken from and sent to nominally Christian countries. “

 

“Over the last five years well over one thousand women have been kidnapped and then gruesomely murdered in Guatemala. Their bodies usually turn up after a few days, mutilated and in some instances with messages such as “death to bitches” written on them. To date only three men have been incarcerated in connection with those attacks. Would it be proper to thereby conclude that the “Christians” of Guatemala, an overwhelmingly Christian nation, have no regard for the suffering of their women? Of course it would not. “

Are young girls and women sent off to only ‘Christian’ Nations as human cargo to be used as prostitutes? Of course not.

Zaid is committing taqiyya to hide more horrific crimes in many Islamic countries. Lets expose them…

The sex trade and human trafficking are not related to Christianity. Nor are the countries that allow the horror of illegal sex trade and human trafficking are propagated or even considered by Christians. Zaid is simply trying to throw off out misinformation without citing his sources.

Is Zaid right with his statements? Not according to these  links to the US Dept of State information on human trafficking are here:

http://2001-2009.state.gov/g/tip/rls/fs/index.htm

The countries that have a problem with the human trafficking for prostitution include:

“The US wants countries on the list to address their trafficking problem

The US has placed key Middle East allies Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman and Qatar on its blacklist of countries that have failed to stop trafficking people.”

 

“Another three countries – Equatorial Guinea, Algeria and Malaysia – were added to the US state department’s list in its annual report on trafficking.”

 

“Nine other countries were already on the list.”

 

“They face sanctions for failing to stop people being forced into the sex trade and other forms of forced labour.”

 

“So-called “Tier 3″ countries do not fully comply with minimum standards [to fight trafficking] and are not making significant efforts to do so, the report says, making them eligible for US economic sanctions.”

 

“Burma, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Uzbekistan and Venezuela were already in Tier 3 group before the state department published the 2007 Trafficking in Persons Report.”

 

“Three countries previously in Tier 3 – Belize, Laos and Zimbabwe – were promoted to Tier 2 for improving their records.”

 

 

“But there was some criticism that major nations such as India, Mexico and Russia, all of which have been criticised over human trafficking in recent years, were not included in the list of worst offenders.”

 

 

‘Modern-day slavery’

 

“US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the practice was becoming less acceptable year by year.”

“HUMAN TRAFFICKING BLACKLIST”

Bahrain 

Kuwait 

Oman 

Qatar 

Equatorial Guinea 

Algeria 

Malaysia 

Myanmar 

Cuba 

Iran 

North Korea 

Saudi Arabia 

Sudan 

Syria 

Uzbekistan 

Venezuela

http://elpisproject.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/us-allies-put-on-trafficking-list/

Hmmm. This list seems to have countries with a substantial muslim population or are secular. So much for his lies.

When I researched his claims about Guatemala I found out the following:

“No protection no justice Killings of women in Guatemala”

“Guatemala”

“2007 Amnesty International USA”

“5 Penn Plaza, New York, NY 10001 | 212.807.8400”

http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?id=280F8FE94B2826C48025701C00330145

According to the article:

“Most of the killings of women in Guatemala have occurred in urban areas of the country which have also witnessed a dramatic rise in violent crime in recent years often linked to organized crime, including drugs and arms trafficking and kidnapping for ransom, or to the activities of street youth gangs known as ‘maras’.(4) Men have also been affected by general levels of violence in the community and there has been a significant increase in the overall murder rate. Public security issues and breakdown in the rule of law are frequently cited as among the main concerns of the population at large.”

“Many women and girls in Guatemala live with gender-based violence: violence against women in the family, rape, and sexual harassment in the workplace are commonplace. Women and young girls are also the victims of commercial trafficking and sexual exploitation.(5) Police officers have also been implicated in cases of sexual violence. A number of the victims of killings were under 18 years of age.(6) Among the women killed over the last few years in Guatemala are students, housewives and professionals, domestic employees, unskilled workers, members or former members of street youth gangs and sex workers. While the murders may be attributed to different motives and may have been committed by both state and non-state individuals, a study of some of the cases shows that the violence is usually gender-based; the gender of the victim would appear to be a significant factor in the crime, influencing both the motive and the context, as well as the kind of violence suffered by the woman and the manner in which the authorities respond.”

How are these crimes related to Christianity? They aren’t… and Zaid would know that if he took the time to tell the truth and not create stupid propaganda for islam. In fact the ‘mara’ gangs are far from ANY RELIGION I respect at all. Even if the teen criminals are Catholic they have left their faith for a life of hell.

His deceitful commentary continues with:

“At the end of the day, attacks such as the one that resulted in the death of Aqsa Parvez are acts of domestic violence resulting from rage that emanates from a total neglect of Islamic teachings. Ms. Parvez lost her life due to such violence and perhaps there are a few other instances where Muslims women in Canada or here in the United States, have been similarly victimized. However, these instances should be kept in perspective. In the United States there are approximately 1,200 women killed every year by their husbands or intimate partners. There are other “Christian” nations where murders of this type are even higher. “

“The United States, Guatemala, and other countries we could mention where similar abuses occur are Christian nations. However, it would be disingenuous to use such statistics as an indictment against Christianity. These issues are an affront to humanity and require our collective attention. Until we all view the problem this way, we are in jeopardizing the health and integrity of our society.”

Domestic violence has nothing to do with Christianity as a religion but has more to do with atheistic / secular society in general. Domestic violence in ANY Country is NOT excusable!

However in recent years there have been more reported honor killings in both the USA and Canada but WHO is doing these criminal acts? Muslims of course…  and like all other cultures that share American and Canadian Nationality we must deal with these problems head on.

Aqsa Parvez story can be found under these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqsa_Parvez

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/aqsa-parvez-memorial/

Zaid the Imam would be hard pressed to find a  Bible believing Christian committing themselves to criminality, murder, rape, theft etc. Nor would he be able to place similar crimes at the feet of Christ or the Christian Church!

We non muslims in various ways work to restore broken families, helping the abused and helping our fellow men out. Muslims too are realizing that they must live up to their hype and are trying similar tactics.

In conclusion:

Muslims who write such poor propaganda should realize that we non muslims regardless of our religious beliefs are not easily fooled by their stories. Answering this Imams charges took just a few hours and some internet research easily demonstrates he has a lot wrong about Islams critics.

If he really cares about how non muslims think about Islam as a religion and system.

Then he should do the following.

Change islams culture where the muslima are protected and not abused in both Western and Sharia run countries.

Muslims who harm thier wives, mothers, sisters through physical abuse, sexual abuse and honor killing should be turned over to the Authorities if those muslims live in Western Countries under Western laws.

Muslims who live under sharia run countries should adopt Western laws to protect thier own muslimas in order to stop physical abuse, sexual abuse and honor killings.

Change sharia laws to protect muslimas from the above abuses I have mentioned and to protect children born of muslima mothers from abuse fathers or other relatives.

These few suggestions of mine would be a start to change islam and to protect its own female followers and thier children.

~W

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