The Doctrine of Richard Rives and why I question them.

For several years now I have read, researched what rives posts online. Because of the subjects he frequently speaks about are controversial, unbiblical, and even are historically inaccurate I am forced to question his activities online and his writings and question if he is actually a Christian or a scam artist.

Since Rives is not part of a specific movement or sect in Christianity he is only spewing forth his philosophy and opinion. Since he thinks he is right I have decided to post his various teachings that he has previously sent out in emails in my attempt to show that his philosophy is not Christian but a mix of beliefs and statements that seem to go against Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Disciples.

The following email examples are from rives himself I have not altered his emails what you read is what came to me and others on his email lists. The only exception is the ending sentence he uses at the end of his email are deleted because of repetition. Many of the examples in this post are old emails that I added to my previous old post on this topic other email examples are newer and are added to this post.

Other examples copied to this post are portions from his book that is found on his website.

Several of the emails posted here from rives were responded to on my blog while others I have ignored because of time constraints.

PLEASE NOTE: Donot mistake my posting of his emails as any form of support of his so-called ‘ministry’ or his ideas. I DONOT AGREE WITH OR SUPPORT HIS IDEAS / DOCTRINES!! Because of his doctrines and his attacks against fellow Christians I am forced to pull back the curtain to reveal this individual as a false teacher and a minor trouble maker that makes claims of being Christian and then attacks the very Faith he claims to be in or follow.  

The word Doctrine is defined as…

1 archaic: teaching, instruction

2 a: something that is taught

b: a principle or position or the body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief : dogma

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/doctrine

The following examples are rives ‘doctrine’ you have been warned…

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“The Sabbath Sunday Shuffle Richard Rives”

Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:52 PM

“Dear Friends and Fellow Servants,”

“In order to avoid the embarrassment of having to explain why Christians should disregard one of our Creators commandments, many theologians do what I call the Sabbath Sunday Shuffle. When questioned about Sabbath rest, they quickly change the subject from rest to Sunday worship – Stating: We worship on Sunday because…… “

 

“If you want to see a preacher dance, try it for yourself. You will find that most will do anything possible to keep from talking about Sabbath rest. “

 

“The fourth commandment says nothing about worship. It states that we and those under our charge must rest on the seventh day as a memorial of the creation – For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. He set it aside as a special holy day. Let us not forget that the LORD who created heaven and earth was Yeshua – Jesus Christ. “

 

“The New Testament informs us that it was Jesus who created all things – that He was in the world and the world was made by Him. It was Jesus who hallowed the seventh day at the time of creation yet today many of those professing Him as their Savior disregard the very sign by which the creator can be identified – the seventh day Sabbath. That is no coincidence. “

 

“We have an adversary that will do anything possible to prevent us from keeping our Creator’s commandments. Not only that, but just as in the Garden of Eden, knowing that sin is the transgression of the law and that the wages of sin is death, he will do anything possible – through confusion – to persuade mankind that the commandments of God can be legitimately questioned – that we can be as God and decide what is good and what is evil. “

“In the Book of Second Samuel we learn that when King David brought the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem he danced before the LORD with all his might. Those who do the Sabbath Sunday Shuffle dance with all their might – not in honor of our Creator – but in order to divert our attention from the fact that the fourth commandment, that was placed in the Ark of the Covenant, specifies rest on the seventh day…”

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“Remember the Sabbath Day:”

“This segment is excerpted from the book, “Too Long in the Sun”

“Richard Rives”

“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

“We observe that in the book of John, Jesus tells us that in order to bear fruit we must abide in him. He goes on to tell us that the way we abide in him is to keep His commandments. The instruction to keep the sabbath day holy is one of those commandments.”

“The Sabbath described in Genesis 2 is definitely the seventh day, Saturday, and not the first day, Sunday.”

“There is no way to avoid this truth.”

“The fourth commandment was established at the creation of the world and later reconfirmed to Moses in the wilderness by Jesus.”

“The Sabbath was very important to people of the Bible and even though calendars may have changed, it would be inconceivable for the Sabbath day to have been confused with any other day. Chronologist are in agreement that the order of days is the same today as at the beginning of history. In addition, Jesus recognized the Sabbath and would have certainly known which day He had commanded to be kept holy.”

“ONE MIGHT ASK: IS THE SABBATH REALLY THAT IMPORTANT?”

“Is God really serious about the observance of the sabbath day? Numbers 15: 32-40 answers this question without any doubt. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day, And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation, And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.””

“We find in Nehemiah Chapter 13, that the people of Jerusalem and Tyre were profaning the Sabbath. Nehemiah contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, “What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the sabbath day?”

“Has something evil become good?”

“Let us heed the warning of Isaiah: ”

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”

“Again, in Isaiah chapter 58, we are told that Israel forsook the ordinances of God. Verse 13 tells them how to correct their ways and honor God, “If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.”

“In chapter 66 we find that the Sabbath will be recognized in the future “For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from on sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.”

“There is no doubt that all flesh includes everyone, Jews (Judaean) by birth and Gentiles (nations). At the time of the new heaven and the new earth, a time when all things are made perfect, the sabbath will be universally recognized and observed.”

“THERE ARE SEVERE PENALTIES FOR DISOBEYING THE SABBATH COMMANDMENT.”

“In Jeremiah 17, the Lord says “hallow ye the Sabbath” He goes on to say “But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction. He continues on to tell about the rewards for obeying Him and in verse 27, He warns, “But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem and it shall not be quenched.”

“In 586 B.C. and in 70 A.D. Jerusalem was overthrown. Why? The Bible says it was because the people did not keep God’s commandments.”

“History reveals that all the known nations during the first century A.D. rested on the Sabbath day, Saturday. The question is not: “did the believers meet on Sunday” but rather: “what did believers do on Saturday, the Sabbath day”?

“The first century historian, Flavius Josephus, gives us great insight as to what took place on the Sabbath, not only in Jerusalem, but, in all of the Roman empire.: …..the multitude of mankind itself have had a great inclination of a long time to follow our religious observances; for there is not any city of the Grecians, nor any of the barbarians, nor any nation whatsoever, whither our custom of resting on the seventh day hath not come…..”

“Philo, a first century historian of Alexandria Egypt, reports the same findings: “And in short, it is very nearly an universal rule, from the rising of the sun to its extreme west, that every country, and nation, and city, is alienated from the laws and customs of foreign nations and states, and that they think that they are adding to the estimation in which they hold their own laws by despising those in use among other nations. But this is not the case with our laws which Moses has given to us; for they lead after them the inhabitants of continents, and islands, the eastern nations and the western, Europe and Asia, in short, the whole inhabited world from one extremity to the other. For what man is there who does not honour that sacred seventh day, ranting in consequence a relief and relaxation from labour, for himself and for all those who are near to him, and that not to free men only, but also to slaves, and even to beast of burden.”

“What did the first century Gentile believers do on the Sabbath? They rested just as they always had.”

“It was not necessary for the church to instruct the Gentile believers as to the Sabbath. They were already observing it throughout the known world.”

“One of the most important considerations relates to Constantine the Great and the fact that he, as Roman Emperor, commanded the civil observance of Sunday. In the year 321 he issued a law prohibiting manual labor on Sunday.”

“The Sunday law of Constantine had nothing to do with Christianity. ”

“Quoting the book “The History of the Church” we find that “He enjoined the observance, or rather forbade the public desecration of Sunday, not under the name of Sabbatum, but under its old astrological and heathen title, Dies Solis. familiar to all his subjects, so that the law was as applicable to the worshippers of Hercules, Apollo, and Mithras, as to the Christians. There is no reference whatsoever in his law either to the fourth commandment or to the resurrection of Christ. ”

“Constantine worshipped all the gods – especially Apollo the god of the sun. He held the title Pontifex Maximus which was the title of the high priest of paganism. These and other considerations make it clear that Constantine’s form of Christianity was actually a modified version of mystery religion. – The Mystery of Iniquity that had been at work since the time of Babel.”

“This same system, characterized by the shrouding of truth in secrecy and the manipulation of the truth in order to achieve it’s ends, set out, in the third century, to combine paganism with Christianity. These goals were partially accomplished through the proclamation on March 7th 321 A.D. of Constantine the Great, stating:” All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon The Venerable Day of the Sun.”

“Shortly after he made his sun-day proclamation, Constantine ordered his wife and eldest son murdered and had a bronze statue of himself set atop a tall column as Apollo, the sun god.”

“This is the man known as the first Christian Emperor.”

“Consider the coin minted during the reign of Constantine, after he claimed to be a Christian. On one side is the head of Constantine. On the other side is the sun god Sol Invictus with the inscription “Sol Invicto Comiti” – Committed to the invincible sun.”

“Is the time period from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown really the sabbath? Could it be that the days of the week have changed over time?”

“No! Calendar changes have not affected the order of the days of the week. It is true that the imperfect Julian calendar originating in 46 BC was replaced by the Gregorian calendar in 1582 but the order of the days was not changed. What took place was that 10 days were taken from the number of days in the month, not from the number of days in the week.”

“There is absolutely no scriptural evidence that the weekly seventh day sabbath has been set aside. At the beginning of the world God proclaimed the Sabbath to be a special time. Genesis says that He hallowed it (made it holy).”

“Jesus said: “Till heaven and earth pass.”

“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”

“So what can we definitely say about the Sabbath? ”

“The Sabbath is to be a sign between God and his people so that they will know that he is the god that sanctifies them.”

“The fourth commandment has absolutely nothing to do with religious activity on any certain day. In fact, it is just the opposite, it is a day of rest, prescribed by God. We should worship God every day.”

“The Sabbath was established at the time of the creation of the world. It is not the Jewish Sabbath or the Christian Sabbath; it is God’s Sabbath.”

“The seventh day Sabbath was reconfirmed in the Ten Commandments, written in stone by the finger of God.”

“The penalty that was set for non observance is death.”

“Even after the crucifixion, the followers of Jesus observed the Sabbath. The very people who walked and talked with Jesus “rested the sabbath day according to the commandment”

“No where in the Bible are we told that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday.”

“In Isaiah 66:22-23 we find that the Sabbath is not just a thing of the past and that in the new heavens and the new earth the sabbath will be recognized.”

And in Revelation 14:12, again referring to future events, we are given a description of saints: “…they that keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus.”

“Yes, Saints will remember the sabbath day to keep it holy for it is one of Gods commandments and the faith of Jesus establishes it.”

“The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath.”

http://www.toolong.com/pages/remember_sabbath.htm

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“All Israel by Richard Rives”

Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:31 AM

“In 722 B.C. the nation of Israel, the ten northern tribes, went into Assyrian captivity and in 586 B.C. the southern kingdom of Judah was defeated and most of its inhabitants were taken to Babylon. ”

“The Book of Hosea speaks of a time when the children of Judah and the children of Israel would be gathered together. Hosea prophesied that the number of the children of Israel would be as the sands of the sea, that a remnant would be saved, and that people who were not at that time a part of the remnant would one day be called the children of the living God.”

 

“In the New Testament Book of Romans, the Apostle Paul, in reference to the book of Hosea, says: “they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, in Isaac shall thy seed be called.” He tells us that the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.”

“In Chapter 11, Paul exhorts believers: “For I would not brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved.”

“In the Book of Galatians, Paul says that: “there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

“Today, believers around the world, are recognizing the fact that “the church” is not a separate entity from Israel; and that the Ten Commandments are not Old Testament precepts that were “nailed to the cross. What we recognize as the New Testament in no way sets aside those commandments. The New Testament is simply “the rest of the story”

 

“While believers are saved by grace through faith, sin is still defined as ‘the transgression of the law’ and the penalty for sin is still death. Jesus did not die in order that we might transgress His laws and practice sin. “…all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever….”

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“By What Authority by Richard Rives”

Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:35 PM

“Each week, the basis of my commentary is the Ten Commandments. It is amazing how many people just hate the thought of having to keep those commandments – to actually be subject to our Creator’s moral laws that He gave us for our own good. Some folks don’t like that idea; and they get pretty upset by anyone who would tell them that God did not make a mistake when He wrote His laws in stone.”

“For many, when they don’t like the message they attack the messenger. In spite of the fact that I repeat over and over again that we are saved by grace through faith and not of works, some say I am crazy, legalistic, a Judaizer, teaching salvation by way of works, simply for stating that the laws of our Creator will never change and that sin is still defined by those laws.”

“If they don’t like our Creator’s commandments they should not blame me. They can call me crazy if they like. I would however caution them about saying that in reference to the One who wrote them. “The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name.”

“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.”

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“All Manner of Evil by Richard Rives”

Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:55 PM

“What’s wrong with keeping the Ten Commandments?”

“Today, just as in the past, many of us believe that we should keep our Creator’s Commandments. We are saved by grace through faith, and not of works. We know that there is no commandment that we can keep that will save us; however, once we have received that grace through the shed blood of Messiah, we want to live according to His commandments, by the power of the Holy Spirit – commandments that He said will remain valid and will not change as long as heaven and earth exist.”

“What’s wrong with that? What is wrong with keeping the Ten Commandments?”

“For those who claim to believe in the God of the Bible it’s hard to find a problem with simply doing what He says. Even so, that is exactly what some people do. They get all upset by the idea that our Creator has rules and regulations. They want to do what is right in their own eyes.”

“They call us Judaizers, even though the Ten Commandments were given by the God of both the Old and New Testament — Given not only to Jewish people, or exclusively to the tribes of Israel, but to a mixed multitude when He spoke them from Mt.Sinai.”

“They say that we are being legalistic – somehow blocking out of their mind the fact that we make no claim of salvation by way of works.”

“Why do they try so hard to find something wrong with keeping the Ten Commandments? They do it because they do not want to be subject to our Creator’s laws and are desperate to find any excuse for breaking them.”

“What do you say? What is wrong with keeping the Ten Commandments? What is right about not keeping them?”

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“Blessed and Hallowed by Richard Rives”

Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:50 PM

“Most every student of the Christian faith recognizes the name John Calvin, a Protestant reformer who lived during the Sixteenth Century. Did you know that Calvin considered himself to be a Sabbath keeper?”

“Here’s what he had to say:”

“Nothing can be more pleasing or acceptable to God than observation of the Sabbath and sincere worship …the Lord takes the highest delight in the true observation of the Sabbath. The Sabbath should be for us a tower whereon we should mount aloft to contemplate afar the works of God, when we are not occupied nor hindered by anything besides. It is for us to dedicate ourselves wholly to God…to lay aside our earthly affairs and occupations. Let us not think that the things which Moses speaks of the Sabbath day are needless for us. We must refrain from our own business which might hinder us from minding God’s works… Christians spending the Lord’s day in making good cheer, and in playing and gaming is a mockery and does not honor God…”

“Yes, John Calvin believed that sabbath keeping was an important part of Christianity. Even so, he believed that the “Jewish Holy Day” – the 7th day Sabbath as specified in the fourth commandment – was only a superstition that should be overthrown. When he speaks of Sabbath keeping he is not talking about the 7th day, he is talking about SUNday.”

“Calvin made no pretense. He plainly stated that Christians substituted SUNday, which he called “The Lord’s Day,” for the Sabbath. That is a very important point that most Christian theologians and teachers will go to any length to avoid discussing. Our Creator wrote His fourth commandment in stone and was very specific. The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord. That will never change.”

“God said to rest on the Sabbath, the seventh day. Calvin said that we should rest on SUNday, the first day. In whom will you place your trust?”

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“Sin Does Not Have Dominion Over Us by Richard Rives”

Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:06 AM

“Today, it is not uncommon to hear it said that the Law was nailed to the cross, but history reveals that first century believers would not agree. If the commandments of our Creator were abolished at the time of the cross, those living in Jerusalem for the next 100 years knew nothing about that.”

“No, The Ten Commandments were not abolished and never will be. They were written in stone. ”

“In the well-known Sermon on the Mount, Jesus tells those who followed Him that He did not come to abolish the law. The New Testament is full of references to the law, including the fact that sin is the transgression of the law and that if there was no law there would be no definition of sin. Even so, what we hear most often is that believers are not under the law.”

“Today, there are those who would lead us to believe that somehow “grace” negates the instructions of our Creator and that “grace” warrants the willful disregard for His commandments without penalty. According to Scripture, that is just not true. Sin is still defined as the transgression of the law, and the wages of sin is still death. What Paul was telling us is that as believers, by the power of the Holy Spirit, sin does not have dominion over us. By way of the Holy Spirit we are empowered to live in accordance with the instructions of our Creator.”

“Does “grace” warrant the willful disregard for our Creator’s commandments without penalty? According to scripture the answer is NO! That idea is a result of rebellious men claiming higher authority; and while stating that Jesus is Christ, they deceive many.”

“What then? Shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid…”

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“Understand The Law by Richard Rives”

Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:10 AM

“While it is true that legal matters can become very confusing, it must be remembered that God’s laws are plain and simple. They can be written in one paragraph, memorized by the smallest child, and as the Bible states, are not grievous. ”

“In an age when many turn the grace of God into lasciviousness, there are those, professing themselves to be wise, who attempt to persuade us that the laws of God are now void and of no value. Such persuasion can be described in no better way than what the Bible calls vain deceit. ”

“Jesus Christ, our Creator, the law giver, and our Savior, said that until heaven and earth pass away, not even the slightest thing concerning the law will change. We are told that sin is the transgression of the law and that Christ died for the remission of sins. ”

“In fact, if any of the commandments could have been changed, sin could have been redefined, and He would not have had to die.”

“No, the commandments of our Creator are not a thing of the past. As believers we do not make them void that grace may abound. It is by grace that believers receive the Holy Spirit – empowering them to keep those sure commandments that stand fast forever…”

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“Servants To Sin or to Righteousness”

Wednesday, September 7, 2011 7:03 AM

“by Richard Rives”

“Today, many people believe that the Old Testament is all about law and that the New Testament is all about grace. The truth is: There is law and grace in both the Old and New Testaments. In the Old Testament we are told that Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. ”

“The new Testament defines sin as the transgression of the law. Today there are those who reject the teachings of the New Testament. They think that they can keep God’s laws in “the flesh” and obtain eternal life. On the other hand, many people known as “Christians,” think that they can break God’s laws in “the Spirit” and obtain eternal life. Scripture proves that both lines of thought are in error. Both groups of people have “trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant… an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace.”

“Those who seek salvation “by works of the law” are despising the Spirit of grace by rejecting it, and those who “continue in sin” are despising the Spirit of grace through its abuse.”

“The Apostle Paul tells us that “Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness… because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.” He also tells us that those calling themselves Christians, who attempt to “continue in sin that grace may abound” and who obey not “unto righteousness,” yield themselves to “sin unto death.”

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“Dear Friends and Fellow Servants,”

“What about Paul? “

“Today, using isolated verses of scripture, there are those who would attempt to persuade us that the Apostle Paul was teaching people to disregard the commandments of God. It is interesting to note that the theologians of his day were falsely accusing Paul of the very same thing. “

“Acts, Chapter twenty one, deals with that subject. It gives us the account of Paul being instructed to purify himself with four men who had taken a vow, and to share in the expenses of the offerings associated with doing so. The men were to have their heads shaved as we read that Paul himself had done in Chapter 18 verse 18. ”

“The reason that Paul was instructed to do that was in order that: “all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.”

“Here we find that even as a Christian Paul did keep the commandments. Remember, we are told that there were thousands of Jews (Judaeans) which believed in Jesus, and that they were all zealous of the law. ”

“Earlier in the 15th Chapter of Acts we learn that the Pharisees were insisting that Gentile converts must be circumcised and keep the law of Moses. At a meeting of the church at Jerusalem it was decided that it was through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ that both Jews and Gentiles are saved and that the Gentiles should only be instructed to abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.”

“Now if we stop right there, it might seem that it is unnecessary for Gentile believers to concern themselves with Old Testament laws.  Does this mean that Gentile believers can take the name of God in vain, disregard the sabbath day, dishonor their father and mother, kill, commit adultery, steal, bear false witness or covet their neighbors things? No! That was not the intent of the communication. The apostles decided to only instruct the Gentiles in regards to their well known traditional pagan practices. Why?: The very next verse gives the answer: “For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.”

“It was simply not necessary to give further instruction. The Gentiles would learn about the commandments of God in the synagogues – every sabbath day. ”

“It is true that we are under grace, and that salvation comes through our faith in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, and not by works of the law. Were not Jewish believers also under grace? Sure they were; however, we read that they were all zealous of the law. The first “church members” if you will, kept the commandments of God and had the faith of Jesus.”

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“Sound Doctrine Righteous and Godly Living by Richard Rives”

05-01-2012

“The Book of Titus speaks of sound doctrine. We learn that the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. We also learn that grace involves denying ungodliness and worldly lust – sober righteous and godly living in this present world as we look forward to the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ.”

“Titus goes on to explain what Yeshua, Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel has done for us. He gave Himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”

“Today, many Christian leaders would lead us to believe that those who are zealous of good works, somehow discount the value of grace. They have been trained to associate good works with the idea of salvation by way of those good works. ”

“Nothing could be further from the truth. We are saved by grace through faith and not by works of the law – not by anything we can do to earn salvation – it is the gift of God. “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us.”

“As we see in the Book of Titus, good works are not a means of salvation but rather the result of it. Sin has always been defined as the transgression of the law and the wages of sin, the penalty for sin, has always been death. ”

“Jesus gave Himself for us to redeem us from all iniquity – to redeem us from the penalty for transgressing His laws and to purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works – to empower His servants to keep His commandments.”

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“Sons of the Living God”

Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:20 PM

“Today, there are those who would tell us that the Ten Commandments are just for the Jews. That’s because most Christians do not realize who they really are.”

“The Old Testament book of Hosea tells us that one day people who were not considered to be the people of God would one day be called his children – sons of the living God. The instructions and blessings intended for Israel, as specified in the Old Testament were not “just for the Jews.”

“Based on the fact that most Jewish people rejected Yeshua, Jesus Christ, as the Messiah, some would persuade us that “The Church” has replaced “the Jews” as God’s chosen people. That idea is most commonly referred to as “Replacement Theology,” a confusing ideology that separates believers from Israel. It is a theology that creates two distinct groups of people, the children of Israel to whom the law was given and “the Church” to whom grace was given. ”

“Well, a careful examination of scripture reveals that there was both law and grace in the Old Testament; and there is law and grace in the New Testament as well. In fact, if there was no law in the New Testament there would not be any need for grace.”

“To further complicate things, another even more confusing premise, advanced by some theologians, is that the Jews and the church, as separate entities, have separate plans of salvation. I call this ‘exclusion theology’- the idea that somehow Jewish people do not need Jesus – that somehow they are excluded from the plan of salvation established by their own Messiah.”

“The first believers – the first church members, if you will, were Jews. It was only later that the Gentiles, or nations, were incorporated into the assembly of believers; and even after that time, the book of Acts informs us that thousands of Jewish people became believers and that they were all zealous of the law. They believed in Jesus and never once had the idea that their belief would in any way oppose the commandments of God.”

“The truth is there is only one Israel, and that title is not exclusive to the Jews or to the Church. As we read in the New Testament – Gentile believers joined with the believing remnant of Israel to become part of Israel – the very same Israel that we read about in the Old Testament: As the book of Galatians states: ‘The Israel of God.”

“Were the Ten commandments just for the Jews? No, those Ten Commandments were just for Israel.”

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“Law and Grace Richard rives”

“The Spirit of Grace ……Hebrews 10:29”

“The Righteousness of the Law ……Romans 2:26”

“Saved by Grace  –  Go and sin no more”

“INTRODUCTION”

“While it is true that legal matters can become very confusing, it must be remembered that Gods laws are plain and simple. They can be written in one paragraph, memorized by the smallest child and as the Bible states, are not grievous.”

“In an age when many turn the grace of God into lasciviousness, there are those, professing themselves to be wise, who attempt to persuade that the laws of God are now void and of no value. Such persuasion can be described in no better way than what the Bible calls “vain deceit.”

“Jesus Christ, our Creator, the law giver, and our Savior said that until heaven and earth pass away, not even the slightest thing concerning the law will change. We are told that sin is the transgression of the law and that Christ died for the remission of sins. In fact, if any of the commandments could have been changed, sin could have been redefined, and He would not have had to die.”

“We are also given Biblical warning that through the sacrificial death of Christ – as payment for our sins – and through faith in his shed blood, we receive forgiveness only for sins that are past – and that if we sin willingly, once we have come to the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin, certain judgment and ultimate destruction.”

“We are told however, that if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Only if we confess our sins.”

“Now if the servants of Satan can persuade us that God’s laws are invalid, then sin, which is the transgression of those laws would never be confessed – and the wages of unconfessed sin is death.”

“Yes, Satan, our adversary as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. Be sober, be vigilant and remember “Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law…”

“SAVED BY GRACE:”

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” ……Ephesians 2:8-9″

“There is no law that can be kept in order to establish ones own righteousness; for “There is none righteous, no, not one: ……Romans 3:10 No man has ever fulfilled the righteous obligations of the law to the point that he has not known sin. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. ……Romans 3:20 “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law:” ……Romans 7:7″

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” ……Romans 3:23-26”

“Sin is the transgression of the law. By the law is the knowledge of sin. Jesus knew no sin because he kept the law perfectly. Only the righteousness of Christ could ever fulfill the righteous obligations of the law. “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” ……2 Corinthians 5:21”

“There is a penalty for sin “for the wages of sin is death” and “without shedding of blood is no remission” of sins. Jesus Christ, who knew no sin, was “made… to be sin” for those who will accept His righteous shed blood as the only sufficient payment for their sins. They are made the “righteousness of God in Him.” ……2 Corinthians 5:21″

“Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”……Romans 10:4 Not the end of the law”

“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” ……Matthew 5:18″{

“Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.”……Romans 3:31″

“Many people, known as “Jews”, thought that they could keep God’s laws in “the flesh” and obtain eternal life. Many people, known as “Christians”, think that they can break God’s laws in “the Spirit” and obtain eternal life. Scripture proves that both lines of thought are in error. Both groups of people have “trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant… an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace.” ….Hebrews 10:29”

“Those who seek salvation “by works of the law” are despising the Spirit of grace by rejecting it, and those who “continue in sin” are despising the Spirit of grace through it’s abuse.”

“The Apostle Paul tells us that “Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness…because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.” He also tells us that those calling themselves Christians, who attempt to “continue in sin that grace may abound” and who obey not “unto righteousness”, yield themselves to “sin unto death.” ……Romans 6:15-16”

“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law” ……1 John 3:4 Christ Jesus was “set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;” ……Romans 3:25”

“Jesus paid the penalty for “sins that are past.” He did not die that we may practice or, “continue in sin.” If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” ……1 John 1:9 “…If we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries… It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” ……Hebrews 10:26-31″

“Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” ……1 John 3:6-10”

“But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ……Romans 6:22-23”

“Those who accept, through faith, the gracious free gift of the righteousness of Christ and who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit are “free from the law of sin and death.” Jesus has paid the death penalty for “sins that are past” and believers have been given the “holy Spirit of promise”, “the earnest of our inheritance,”, that we may walk after the spirit and thereby not practice sin.”

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” ……Romans 8:1-9″

“Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” ……Revelation 14:12′

http://www.toolong.com/pages/law_grace.htm

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“No Such Commandment”

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:52 PM

“Dear Friends and Fellow Servants,’

“The New Testament defines sin as the transgression of the law. While that is a very simple statement there is a great deal of confusion as to what it really means. ”

“The Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament contains many laws. According to Maimonides and Rabbinic Judaism there are 613 of them. The question arises: As believers in Yeshua, Jesus Christ, are we subject to all of those laws? Based on the New Testament, the answer is no. Approximately two thirds of those laws are associated with animal sacrifice, are gender specific, or relate to requirements as defined by a Levitical priesthood. ”

“A good example is circumcision. In Exodus Chapter 12 we learn that those who wanted to observe the ordinance of passover were required to be circumcised. No uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Based on what we read, there is no doubt that circumcision was a specific requirement of Torah. But now lets look at the New Testament: In Acts chapter 15 we read of Pharisees who demanded that believers be circumcised. They said: Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. Well, after a meeting of the apostles and elders in Jerusalem, a letter was written to Gentiles living in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia. That letter makes it plain that circumcision is not a prerequisite for salvation. – – – – “For as much as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:” The book of First Corinthians makes it plain: Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. ”

“Today, there are those who would teach us that believers must be fully Torah observant. Still others would teach us that – no, we live in an age of grace and are not subject to the law. Based on the example of circumcision, it is easy to see how both groups of people could arrive at two totally different conclusions and there are a lot of good Christian people who are simply confused – the results of thousands of years of theological rambling. Time is the Ally of Deceit. ”

“So, how can the teachings of the Old and New Testaments regarding the law be reconciled? ”

“Here’s how: There is a difference between The Ten Commandments that were placed inside the Ark of the Covenant and the laws associated with the Levitical priesthood – the book of the law of Moses that was placed without. Under the priesthood of Aaron – the Levitical priesthood, circumcision was a specific requirement. As believers, our High priest is Yeshua, Jesus Christ and under His priesthood there has been a change in the Levitical law. “

 

“The Ten Commandments on the other hand will never change. They were written in stone.’

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“I Never Knew You”

Friday, September 3, 2010 1:21 PM

“Dear Friends and Fellow Servants,”

“The Book of First John states that, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. In the Book of Hebrews we are told that if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. ”

“In the actual Greek phrase translated – sin is the transgression of the law – we find the word anomia which means an illegality – something opposed to the law. The New Testament is full of references to the law. Even so, today we are being told that the law has been nailed to the cross and has no place in the church. ”

“In the Book of Matthew, we find a forewarning issued directly by our savior. Not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say unto me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name have done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ”

“Now let’s take a look at the word iniquity – depart from me ye that work iniquity. It is the English translation of the Greek word anomia – the same word used in the Book of First John, which defines sin as the transgression of the law. Sin is anomia: sin is the transgression of the law. ”

“Who are the many that Jesus will turn away? We are told that in His name they prophesy. In His name they cast out devils, and in His name they do many wonderful works. There’s only one group of people who do wonderful things in the name of Jesus – – People who call themselves Christians. ”

“There is no way to avoid the fact that what Jesus said was that those who practice sin through the transgressing of His laws, even though they do wonderful things in His name, will be told that they must depart from Him. Not only must the transgressors depart from Him, but He will say that He never knew them. Now that’s something that everyone calling him Lord should carefully consider.”

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“The Law Renounced”

Thursday, January 6, 2011 9:25 PM

“Dear Friends and Fellow Servants,”

“The historical events that took place during the Bar Kokhba revolt significantly changed the relationship between Jewish people who kept the commandments of God and Jewish people and Gentiles who not only kept the commandments of God but who also had the faith of Jesus. It is an event that can be traced directly to the establishment of the authority of Rabbinical Judaism over that of Scripture. ”

“As a result of the failed Bar Kokhba revolt – Jerusalem was renamed Aelia Capitolina – A pagan temple of Jupiter Capitolina was constructed on the temple mount and the land, known for centuries as Judaea, became the “Syrian province of Palestine,” or “the Land of the Philistines.” The Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem were forced into exile – an exile that lasted in one form or another until 1948 – a period of over 1800 years. ”

“What about Gentile Christians who were left in Jerusalem? As Jewish believers could not enter Jerusalem, all that were left there were Gentiles. The historian, Eusebius, informs us that, “When the church was collected there of the Gentiles, that the first bishop after those of the circumcision was Marcus.” In other words it was 100 years after the time of Christ before Marcus would become the first non- Jewish, Christian Bishop of Jerusalem. One hundred years! ”

“Edward Gibbon, in his famous work entitled The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, tells us that at the persuasion of the new Gentile Bishop, Marcus, “The most considerable part of the congregation renounced the Mosaic law, the practice of which they had preserved above a century. He tells us that by renouncing the Mosaic law – unlike those who refused to do so, they were free to live in Jerusalem and go and come as they pleased. ”

“Let us consider what these references tell us. They tell us that for 100 years after the time of Christ, believers, both Jews and Gentiles, observed what Gibbon calls the Mosaic Law: they kept the commandments of God and had the faith of Jesus, just as saints are described in the Book of Revelation.”

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And his latest email.

“A Mixed Multitude by Richard Rives”

07-16-2013

“Upon Mt. Sinai God spoke the Ten Commandments to a mixed multitude. Not just to those from the twelve tribes of Israel – Israelites, or just to Jewish people – those from the tribe of Judah, but to everyone. He expected everyone to keep them and still does.”

“And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

” Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.”

” Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”

” Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

” Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.”

” Thou shalt not kill.”

” Thou shalt not commit adultery.”

” Thou shalt not steal.”

” Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”

” Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.”

“And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.”

” God expected everyone listening there at Mt. Sinai to keep those commandments and still does, for sin is defined as the transgression of the law.”

 

” Jesus kept those commandments, as did His disciples, the believers of the first century.”

 

” Can you think of a good reason why any of those commandments should now be disregarded?”

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And that my friends is only a small part of what rives sends out in his monthly email news letters.

Now to the issues that I feel need to be addressed.

Issues 1, Sabbath:

Rives argues the point that Gentiles kept the Sabbath. And yet cannot back his claim up with the Scriptures to prove his ‘evidence’. However only those who believed in Jesus kept the Sabbath like their Jewish cousins. After a influx of Gentile Christians did the Disciples meet in Jerusalem in Acts 15:1-31 to discuss what Jesus Commanded Jews & Gentiles in regards to the Law of Moses. Sabbath was not part of their discussion. Later in Romans 14:5-6 did Paul suggest that a ‘day to the Lord’ meaning either Saturday Sabbath or Sunday.

As I have frequently posted on my blog Jesus & the Disciples DID NOT Command Saturday Sabbath for Gentile Christians to keep. In fact neither Saturday or Sunday were Commanded or Required for either group.

Yes early Christians did keep the Sabbath in order to reach out to the Jewish community. And early Christians were Jewish. However as I previously mentioned Jesus and the Disciples did not Command or teach that Sabbath was needed for Gentiles to keep.

Sabbath was for Israel alone. See:

Exodus 21:1-17

Exodus 31:12-17

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Issues 2, Ten Commandments:

I have proved in the Scriptures that Jesus did not expect or require Gentile Christians to keep the Ten Commandments as a moral system or a salvation system. Rives and others like him are only using philosophy and not the Bible to teach falsehoods.

Can richard rives prove that Jesus required his Gentile followers to keep the Ten Commandments in the Gospels?

No of course not.

Also notice that rives avoids any statements that mention that the Ten Commandments are a Christians morality. Mostly because he knows any statements that he would dare utter would be disproved by his critics simply by using the Bible itself.

Jesus taught on the Law of Moses and easily shows what he thought were the most important Commandments. See Matthew 22:34-40 and this teaching is repeated in other Gospels like:

Mark 12:28-37

Luke 10:25-37

And echoed by the Disciples in:

Romans 13:8-10

Galatians 5:14

James 2:8-13

To conclude this post.

Yes we CAN AGREE that people can uphold different opinions about Christianity. But what good is a opinion when it attacks Christianity and labels it ‘pagan’ without specific evidence to prove those claims? IF his evidence comes from antichristian teachers and is not historically accurate then why should anyone believe his claims?

I find it very sad that my fellow Christians are so easily fooled by a false teacher. How is rives right? He is not and all his followers have to do is open up their Bibles and read what Jesus said and did.

However because of sin those who follow rives will only keep  a philosophy not Chrisitanity.

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